Challenger 2 MBT - Technical data and Discussion (Part 2)

Your probs right. I just sawn the horsepower differences while looking at the reload speed and it was 5am. Im not to bothered about the horsepower. Although all then tanks are spaded, idk if the stat card just doesn’t exists.

Or spall liners we should actually have that arent missing

Then you need to prove that your source starts with the breach empty, as the bug report manager stated, there could have been a round in the chamber, the report doesn’t specify either way. The burden of proof is on you the bug reporter, not Gaijin.

The source is from an MOD accredited journalist from what i found. That compared with the video of the reloads where they are banging them in at 3.5 - 4.5secs a reload should be enough.

Like… countries are going to have documents on the expected/minimum reload… but not on the current or average reload. The expected is 8 in 1 minute but they aren’t going to say 1 in 4.5secs or whatever

But no source does bc its common sense that it will. Is common sense not allowed to be used? I dont know any tank that goes around a battlefield with the breach preload. Its always either.

HESH, BMP, FIRING, TARGET TARGET STOP.

Or

FIN, T-72, FIRING, TARGET, TARGET STOP.

They dont load until they spot the enemy and identify it. Thats common sense and it should be used. The criteria is so strict. I know they want to be 100% sure on facts but not accepting video as a source where videos is the only factual source we are going to get is pretty tight.

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Common sense isnt allowed to be used. If common sense was used, they wouldnt have added the Pantsir with 20km range while everyone else had nothing even close to that for years.

I think it would be fair to give the Challenger a 4.5 second reload for the first 4 rounds and then a 5 second reload for the following 20 or so rounds.

I dont know if gaijin can actually model three seperate ammo racks though.

Yeah but we are not on about that. Specific or similar things like reload should allow it to be applied. We have seen bug reports with common sense mentioned and used be accepted before.

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Well no because 4 of the other 20 or whatever rounds gets moved to the ready rack. If you are not firing from the ready rack should be 5secs maybe or 5.25secs.

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Then prove it,
Simple as that, as indicated by the Bug reporting manager, if you can prove the gun is empty then the report would be acceptable, I really don’t understand how the “Gaijin hates Britain” crowd expects Gaijin to give them the benefit of the doubt. But that’s neither here or there, you only provided 1 secondary source, for a bug reports Gaijin wants two secondary sources minimum, preferably more.

Have we?

They wont accept that the FLIR on the PIRATE has the same FoV as the IRST

No ones said gaijin hates britain in this conversation. There is no documentation or book, that will prove the gun is empty before reload. All we have is videos and common sense. We have proved it with common sense, we have proved it with videos. But they are not accepted.

It has already been openly commented by the devs that the wt reloads are not historical and are completely balanceable for the simple fact that they are not a fixed value

How are we going to determine a fixed value for a human being or a machine? If a Challenger loader reloads the tank in 2 seconds, then everyone else can? No, right? We still have the human factor such as fatigue, mood, MBT speed, terrain, ammo rack conditions, and we can use the same argument for autoloader tanks for the simple fact that there are several types of modes, speed, and ammunition positions

So literally for balancing, gaijin takes a fixed but realistic value and places it

Unfortunately gaijin stopped using it as a balancing tool

“How do you determine a fixed reload rate”
Perhaps by the loader qualification requirement? That we have?

Thanks to Sebbo_the_Plebbo for sending me the second Challenger brochure which states the 1314 ps (1296 bhp) figure for the CV12 engine.

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Considering there are not one, but two, sources stating the increased horsepower hopefully gaijin consider the accepted report for ALL Challenger tanks.

Also, interestingly, this source states the Challenger 1’s top speed as 65kph (instead of the usual 56kph)

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That’s sexy

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Typo

It’s not a typo.

Finally can compete with Leos and M1s in top speed

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