Challenger 2 MBT - Technical data and Discussion (Part 2)

the L26 angle pen is nearly that of 11.3 tanks, its got what 276 angle pen? the Jm33 sits at 283 or something to that affect.

The Type 90 is a different can of worms but it shoudl really have moved up along with the TKX to 11.7 at this stage, we should get the BR of 12.3 or 12.7 for GRB, or what are they saying? the TKX (P) is equal to that of the M1A2 abrams?

Yeah, CR2 and to a lesser extent CR1s biggest fix is decompression

DM43 was purely export, germany never even used that one themself. I think DM33 and DM53 would be the 2a4 rounds

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Yeah I couldn’t remember what way around it was, Infact it may have been you that told me before.

The Dm43 was exported, So realistically Dm33 could be fired by the 2a4?

The Cr1s IMO are quite alright at thier Brs
The 2 is a bit of a different story like it is a struggle bus sometimes.

only DM73 and upwards is restricted those required the L/44A1 or L/55A1 cannon

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So why realistically does the leopard 2A4 not get even at least the DM33, and the abrams the, m883 or whatever it is to put their rounds on par with that of,
CR1, T80B, ZTZ 96A, and most the other 10.7 tanks, hell 3BM42 is found at even 9.7

I I get the leopard 2a4 is a strong tank but it really shouldn’t be arbitrarily nerfed just for balance, make it what it should be and balance around it.

dunno, even then there is so many leopard variants, even different leopard 2a4 batch versions, you could easily add higher br ones with better ammo etc.
Gajins just against it. i find it highly unfair that US and russia get new high rank air addition every patch.
But other nations like china and germany which have a gian ground industry dont get the ground additions in turn

Would like to see that, same as I’d like to see some of hte other centurion variants, vickers variatns like the valiant
and those leopard 1a3s and 1a4s which are missing but look absolutely phenomenal

Gotta love that, germany that has absolutely countless variants ofleopard, trialed etc
as well as the phenomenal amount of chinese tanks from the 80s till now!

It is pretty abhorrant TBH that the leave most other trees in the backround, even germany now adays is getting a bit slow on teh gear.
only reason I think the brought the EF2000 out was due to the fact the F4F ICE was ass for its BR

They are fine at their current BRs but would benefit nonetheless from 11.3-12.0 being fully decompressed, meaning the worst you’d face in a full uptiers are the weaker of the current 11.7s, rather than the full mix of good and bad 11.7s at the moment, including a few 11.7s that probably should be 12.0 if it wasn’t for things at 12.0 being too low. Likewise the mk2 would benefit from a few 11.0s and 11.3s being a little higher.

But yes ultimately the CR2s are the ones that are desperate for a decompress

and that only iirc, because of barrel wear.
So a factor that is not present in war thunder

Do we have any data/images on the presence of hull side spall liners for the Challenger 2?

We know it has UFP/LFP spall liners (LFP STILL NOT MODELLED???), but what about the sides?

It seems strange to do the full turret and hull front and then leave the sides completely vacant of spall liners.

L55 In combination with the Cr.2 gun shield, it gives a monstrous explosiveness for the hull-down gamplay.
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Yeah they are stuck in a rough AF spot though cause they are quite good if they go down in BR and then almost immediately would rise up again

It is a pity that the BN project did not last a little longer, because a new shell for a rifled cannon was in development. And, as can be seen from the interview, it was supposed to be integrated with the HAIP program in terms of the option to boost the engine to 1500 h/P.

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Most of mid to late cold war NL should have been added to Germany.

The Dutch during WW2 were very opposed to Germany for good reason.

I mean ofc that is without debate at all, im sure I shouldn’t have to clarify that xD

I mean, we got Cold War Hungarian stuff in Italy, so getting WW2 Dutch stuff in Germany isn’t that crazy

If BeNeLux wasn’t in France then yeah but because of how lazy Gaijin is they’ll just give everyone C&P vehicles

The 1500HP engine does make sense given the 2E. It makes sense to include that in the planned domestic versions. Just a shame it was scrapped (for now) for the CR3

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