You shouldn’t have to and that’s point everyone else at top tier is having a “good time”
Everyone else has a top tier tank Britain have a basic CR2 with an APS system as their best tank.
ADATS is garbage and Typhoon is the only shining light.
if you think that will help you against the KH38 you are completly wrong, wont help at all agains tthe unfairness in air
No reason for the 2a6M
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More having a tank that can take a hit, move fast and have DM-53
I know KH-38 is busted
thats what britain has the 2e for to move faster, no reason to get canadian mbts
canada stays not a sub tree
there is no reason or relation to leopards to justify the addition to UK
Other option? fix the BK APS?
Then they need to buff the CR3TD, give it DM63 and ideally actually add the proper CR3 ASAP with EKE . The recent CR3TD nerfs rather suck and they still wont fix the CR2
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possible, we both know wont happen unless leopards get it as well
NR 1 once the CR3 realy exists yeah, else u get the same problems like the CR3TD has
Nr 2 you guys realy need to stop the thought about EKE, that round is not a thing, its just the DM83 realy.
No idea why they made that PR stunt about that british co developed APFSDS, when they are just licensing /buying the german DM83 Project Name KE2020 NEO. There is reason u dont find any single source besides the initial statement to the “EKE”
Sucks but realistic sadly
Why?
CR3TD has no armour, no spall liners, no LWR and worse mobility.
Leopard 2 is fine and is quite literally the meta tank at the moment.
Except it does, or at least we could get the CR3(P) which would actually have armour, spall liners, ERA, LWR, etc etc.
Then drop its BR down then. CR2s to 11.0 and CR3TD to 11.3 because its got the DM53.
Frustrating as hell they refuse to actually use BR when it comes to GRB.
The base CR2 should never ever be seeing the 2A7V, so move it up to 12.3 or 12.7 as well
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It is the german main ammunition, the ammunition used by Leopards
The community wouldnt shut up about it and force gajins hand, easy as that
In its essence the performance is the same, to DM53 just inert.
CR3(P) yes, that one exists, but no finished CR3 yet.
they already dropped the Cr3 TDs BR for that reason It is only 11.7 for that reason at this point, cause it is so bad. Other challys are 12.0 And just saying Ariete at 11.7 is still a thing as well
and honestly your bias being noticeable, 2a7Vs arent hard to kill, even more so with that bad new turret basket, they have been massively nerfed trough it
Generaly Leopards have been hit with unreasonable nerf over nerf recently.
Turret handling on the backside and the turret basket massively influenced performance
True, they gave the German Typhoon Aim-9M, PW4s and Brimstones it never used. So it is against the ToS for Britain to have any advantage over any other nation.
No, they simply didnt increase its BR to 12.0. And now its been nerfed again.
The Ariete is smaller and faster and has a faster reload.
and so has the CR2 and CR3.
We still dont even have our IRL ready rack size. Which means that after a few rounds we have the slowest reload at top tier, an average shell, no armour, lowest mobility and yet we are somehow the same BR as the Leopard 2.
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buddy did i say its unreasonable?
I said it wont be added without germany getting it at the same time.
Just like typhoons did
Has anyone else noticed that the armour viewer for the Challanger tanks is a little messed up at the moment
And it’s not just the Challanger 2s, the Challenger 1s armour viewers are also screwed
Both are fine for me. I think you just turned off “show external armour” in the armour viewer.
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That’s what I’m talking about though, no other MBTs have their internal composite armour and the outer steel layer that covers it disappear from the armour view when pressing that button, only the Challengers do, and also, they didn’t used to either this is a rather recent thing.
I don’t want a Leopard 2 bud, I just want a tank that is as good as it’s contemporaries.
Buffing CR2 would help, Gaijin have proven they wont
India has no options that are top tier
Excluding the new light tank
TBH I think if we just got a Leo 2A6M CAN then we would be sorted for a while. There is the large SPAA gap that needs filling after the ADATS but I don’t think we will get ZA-HVM anytime soon. I also wonder if Leo 2A6M has the normal German RCWS that is normally found on their Leopards?
i am not a fan of UK just getting thrown vehicles from everywhere just out of pity
german leopards do not have rcws, the only rcws leopard right now is propably is the 2a7HU
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The RCWS on the PSO is the standard ones the Germans use. The crews normally don’t have them equipped because A. There aren’t any available, B. They choose not to or C. There aren’t any because the Bundeswehr didn’t buy any since the massive budget cuts. Modern Leos from the 2A5 or 2A6 to the most modern variants are all capable of using it (if there is a space available for it or there is already another RCWS on the turret), they are a lot like the British RCWS for the CR2s (can’t remember name rn) and can get used be all, no matter the version
no literaly german leopards do not use RCWS, no 2a5,6,7 . The PSO was a demonstrator.
But germany considered the RCWS technology not finished yet at the 2A7V time and decided against integrating it. German leopards are not able to use RCWSm no idea where u got that from
Thought they could use them. I’ve seen plenty of pics of Leos with them. I refer to the PSO as it uses the RCWS I’m talking about
literaly would love to see them.
Its only the 2a7+ and PSO you will see pictures of them, both coming out of the same project for an urban fight leopard version. No inservice leopard has them