Challenger 2 MBT - Technical data and Discussion (Part 1)

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9025

The CR2 is just unplayable right now, when did Gaijin add the breach shot guarantees to kill 2-3 of your turret crew?
Yet 2A4 breach shot damages the breach
The 2A6/A7 just absorbs the round.
L27A1 is worthless worst top tier round prefer DM33 and Mango to this travesty. Do we have any further information on this round? Britain developed the round to defeat K5 and it doesnt.

Question is why is the CR2 mantlet/breach creating so much spalling? You cannot rush and you cannot snipe when any mantlet hit kills two crew members!

9026

Welcome to the 8848 post thread trying to get the challengers ina playable state. alot of time dedicated to getting the mantlets fixed. i wont play them till they are fixed its as simple as that.

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9027

Because russia must be strong on all fantasy fronts 😂. I guess I can’t blame them, if you can’t make a good tank in real life why not make stuff up? I would. I’ve basically accepted the fact that all modern tanks in this game are a figment of the devs imagination.

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9028

Is this the CR2 or CR1 AESP?

9029

CR1. Major hull components like the fuel tanks are identical because CR2 is based on refurbished CR1 hulls.

9030

Ah, I couldn’t read the ID. I should’ve probably seen that it says Oct 88 in the bottom though haha.
👍

9031

Is there any info about hull spall liners for the CR2 or any spall liners for CR1/Vickers mk.7?

9032

Theyve been radio silent ever since the “remodel”. I’m expecting nothing Intentionally for the Challengers going forward.

9033

To be fair, there is nothing they can say.

Something seriously fucky happened to the ch2 rework, I doubt they want to talk about it.

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9034

There is a report

9035

I’ve made a suggestion post for actual working Barracuda MCS, just waiting for approval of the post (gotta love how long it takes for a suggestion post to be approved…) here’s a pic of a Chally 2 with Barracuda MCS in thermals:
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9036

Doesnt matter, cant be that hard to add a spall liner to the lower plate. :/

9037

I asked the tank museum but they haven’t gotten back to me, however there is photo of what looks like a lining inside the mk7s turret but no paperwork to confirm yet

9038

Im sure every CR2 enjoyer would be more then happy to have Barracude as Britain top tier “Gimmick” for the CR2s.

As is currently stands, CR2s offer no interesting dynamic compared to other MBTs and gets outclassed completely.

Having essentially a black thermal signature would be great passive mechanic that could be expanded on in newer tanks that could get added.

Other Vehicles with MCS/Lower thermal signature

  • T-90M
  • Leopard 2s
  • Strfs
  • Abrams

I’m sure there are other MBTs that have tried SAAB’s Barracuda but these are the only ones I have actively seen pictures of.

Will definitely support this suggestion.

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9039

The suggestion includes all vehicles in WT that I know have tested/use Barracuda with their WT nation, this includes strv121/122, CV9040/120, M1A2 SEP/SEP V2/AIM, Leopard 2A6/7, and Challenger 2. I’ll let you know when its posted though :)

9040

Knowing Gaijin, they’ll say Britain never used it, but give it to all other nations, even if it was only considered

9041

They have it on 3 chally 2’s in-game already, it just doesnt do anything atm…

9042

Sweden will be the first to get Barracuda. Why?

Because they have the most vehicles that can mount it.

Gaijin will look at Britain and say “Only 3 Challengers have it, but Sweden has like 6 vehicles that can mount it so…”

Sweden is Gaijin’s current love child and no one plays Britain so CR2 can’t be the first to get it.

9043

It’ll also be a “balancing decision” and htey’ll conclude the chally doesnt need the buff

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9044

“Our data shows with the recent mantlet buff the CR2 got, they are over performing substantially and so our decision to add Barracuda will be moved to Sweden. We Believe that Sweden benefits more from MCS then Challengers will.”

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