Challenger 2 MBT - Technical data and Discussion (Part 1)

Not that’d he’d know anything about British Tanks or Documents talking about them…

Not according to Gaijin they don’t.
Apparently their magical all seeing all knowing Lanz Odermatt formula overrules a Primary Source document lol.
Because they made some assumptions about the round. But anywho, I should provide something useful and new… which i’m not haha.

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what is that from?

a interview with one of the devs

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Was an interview from Head Dev with a Gaming company. I’ll try fish it out later, if someone doesn’t do so first.

Edit:
Here you go. Gaijin Entertainment Plans To Release Five Major War Thunder Updates Per Year

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will gaijin give CR2E the new mantlet?

I’d expect so. Its just they are using the base CR2 to start with then probably using that to “remodel”, aka copy paste it and then edit it for the remodel of the rest of the Challenger 2s

I play mainly in Soviet vehicles since I chose it at the very beginning of my War Thunder gaming experience, and now I have fully unlocked tech trees of ground vehicles, aviation (with the exception of a couple of planes) and ships. I have also leveled up other nations (Germany, USA, Israel, Sweden) up to ranks 4-6.

lol, I’m shocked

I have no idea why, but you seem to think 2E has different mantlet. It has the same as all Cr2s. It will get the change with the rest of them.

Is the external structure the same?
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How about 3TD

Either way it’s getting the buff, not sure about the 3 but the turret is the same so it would use the same elevation mechanism so it would simply be a new cannon. It may have slightly less or more depending on the cowling but I doubt it will make much difference. That is unless gaijin decide that they don’t have the same mantlet as the normal chally and don’t give them the changes lol…… it’s gaijin so who knows.


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The 3TD im guessing wouldnt have the same Mantlet as the CR2 but its the same gun from the Leopard 2A7V right? So it should have that Mantlet. Unless im thinking of the wrong thing. Though the 3TD is always gunna be weaker as it lacks the spall liners the CR2s and hopefully the full CR3 will have

Hi,
In the following pictures you will see my take on the mantlet of CH2, because I think that you guys (and the Dev) got some stuff wrong that could be pretty important. Be free to criticize. My first language is french so the explanation that I gave below would probably confuse some of you…

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It’s pinned in from the outside as far as I’m aware (photo from the omani run of CR2s)

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rotor1
check this

The important thing is that the armor layout of CR1 and CR2 is different
At first, I had the same idea as you, but my understanding is that



CR1 does not have a huge mantlet structure,armor doesn’t need to swing with Canno either
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But Challenger 2 has a huge mantlet. From the video and photos, it appears that this armor will change its angle with the Canno



CR1 did not have this two things
rotor
120 mm L30A1 L55 Hybrid-Waffe
https://img-forum-wt-com.cdn.gaijin.net/original/3X/d/a/daf6ccc0d223c3e0048422c94cddc0eba2974551.jpeg

These two parts perfectly match the Casting turret
120 mm L30A1
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You are probably right concerning «the mounting hardware »

Above I am saying that this part represent the mantlet from the point of view of soneone who is inside the tank, not from the point of view of somebody which is outside like you guys are saying.

I think that because I can’t see how you could mount the gun to that thing in a more efficient way, the mounting hardware could basicly fill those hole, assuring some sort of weigh saving which could allow you to put more armor at the front of the mantlet for example.

I dont see any reason why this side of the mantlet would be the « front » section of it, how did you guys came to the conclusion that it represent the « front » section ( the section «visible» outside of the tank) and not the « back »? (the section « visible » if your are inside of the tank)

I dont have any proof of what I am saying so I am probably wrong, but it just seem more probable.

Also…

Why would you want the mounting system for the gun to « be separate from the rotor » , resulting in a less efficient design due to the increase weight?

I cant reply more than 3 time because it my first time actually posting something.

I think facing outward can facilitate maintenance and replacement of parts