Challenger 2 MBT - Technical data and Discussion (Part 1)

I started grinding russia their tanks are a change of pace

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Leopards do too. It’s just that in Challenger 2’s case the nerf is even worse because the mantlet is bigger.

In regards to the Leopards, their mantlet ingame can’t even protect against M26 Pershing’s gun.

It should provide at least 450mm KE; according to Gaijin’s charts, it provides 380-545 (somehow the German Leopards have worse mantlets than the Swedish ones, which, theorically, have more realistic values), and yet, they can’t actually protect against some miserable 90mm APCR ingame because the ingame values don’t even match the chart’s.

Gaijin just can’t seem to accept that NATO engineers can, in fact, design minimally functional mantlets. In short; both Challenger 2-3s and Leopard 2s are missing at least 200mm KE on their mantlets.

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I think the whole weak mantlets is so you can always shoot out the breech but with tanks with massive but well protected mantlets doesn’t work as it creates a massive weak were you can one shot whereas on other tanks with smaller mantlets thisbis less likely to happen and it annoys me

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From the new “Its Fixed!” War Thunder - It's fixed! №85 - Steam News

So they fixed the depression angles and changed the engine sounds, these are going to be the only fixes aren’t they…
Devblog soon…

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And gave the enforcer 100 more rounds per mag but removed 100 in total. The depression angles at the rear helps. I hope they fix the MTTD while they’re at it.

Don’t forget, you can shoot slightly better over the back decks! (if you are shooting over the back decks you are already in a very bad place and using the tank in a way it was not intended to be used)

2 of my bugs fixed in one go, im so touched im about to cry

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Yeah its a shame they are the smallest bugs they could fix tbh :)

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Better small than nothing and remember, everything start with small things

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That’s what she said.

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Yes yes, i was expecting that

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Ok, Cr2 got better, now Cr3 time? As it seems to also have depression problems

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All tanks with the rheinmetal guns are like this, it wouldnt suprise me if it was an artificial nerf

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"You’re a useless tank, you’re just a half child between Chally 2 and Chally 3. They didn’t even know how to name you because of the abomination you are. "

You think it’s properly depressed now?

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Yea, it sure is.

that better not be “all” we’re getting

and no i mean, get some actual f**king armour fixes, so the whole strongpoint of the Challenger tanks isn’t also a massive weakspot…

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I will not rest until my Challenger 1 doesn’t explode when hit

At least, not the Sabot ammunition store anyway.

@Gunjob the Cr2 gun depression went through, so here im trying my luck with Cr3, mind taking a look at it?
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/8vuwzZowwwXH

I mean, was there really ever any doubt that they were going to throw out some uselessly trivial astoundingly niche buffs which essentially do not matter and then release a copeblog about why they aren’t changing anything?

I thought this was the expected outcome by everyone from the start.