Challenger 2 armor vs T-90M

Do you know if they have a motive?

winrates. If Gaijin started correcting all armor values on non russian tank designs every groundmatch would be a very one sided situation.

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I’m not sure, all i know is that the snail seems to take Soviet or Russian at face value and sometimes don’t question it, but NATO needs uber deep research and a bakers dozen of evidence or suppoorting examples for it to be accepted, and sometimes even then its not even implemented. Regardless of all the evidance they still chose to make blow out panels not work anymore, even though it has infact been proven to work just fine.

I choose not to rant about the imaginary KH38MT, its existance beyond a prototype is dubious at best.

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Yeah… Its crazy the essays needed to report minor issues and yet ive seen a few soviet reports get passed based upon “trust me bro”

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I’m not quesiton about Gaijin wishdom in Soviet steel unless “Top Secret” documents or blue prints shows up again in forum.

Based on my very accurate calculations, the composite (in game) of the T-90M is a whooping ~5x stronger than the composite in the challenger.

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T-90M gets around 9.74 mm RHAe/mm per 1 mm of its air and rubber. These numbers are very high, and very situational. Those numbers shouldnt be as good when against modern apfsds. Challengers composite is 2.2 mm RHAe/mm, meaning, the air and rubber in T-90M are highly buffed, while, the composite in Challenger is weak.

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Is it possible to do something with this information?

Probably not.

It called Incompetence
which is what Gaijin is.

Most likely yeah, but they seem to be very slightly favoring Russian tech from time to time. I personally used to believe in bias but I realize that it’s stupid now, it goes both ways. Newest example I can think of is M1A1 now being 11.3 while a lot of other, arguably worse MBTs were moved up. The T90M and BVM’s performance at top tier isn’t great, but KH38MT shouldn’t really exist in game, and the stinger should be pulling 20Gs. Lastly, (I’m quite sure) blowout panels do work with explosions not just fires.

They butchered my beloved Chally’s and soviet top tanks are invincible.

Proper kick to the bollocks when you reach top tier.

its crazy how 1mm of air is stronger than 4 mm of the composite in the challenger, or thats what gaijin thinks

You can still beat inexperience players in you Chally’s.

It’s because we know exactly what Soviet tank armor is because after the Cold War, they published a lot of exacts like the armor composition, thickness, and effective armor and protection. This is why if you hover over a T-90 UFP, it shows steel and textolite and has their exact protection modifiers. Since the composition of NATO armor is still classified and we only know the thickness of the armor, gaijin just calls it NERA and it has a flat modifier of 0.1 for KE protection. This is why stuff like the Leclerc gunner block is almost a meter of composite and spaced armor, but only provides 400mm of KE protection. Here is a link that has the modifiers

What about the leopards though?

Tinfoil hats going strong in here again.

Alright buddy

I don’t understand what you mean by that. This did remind me of the Swedish tank trials where they did publish protection values for the tanks. The issue is that the US removed the DU from the M1A2 that they sent, so the M1A2 in game doesn’t have the DU protection values. This should mean that the Leopard 2A5 and 2A6 should have the correct protection values, but I’m not sure

Of course. They’ve got massive ressentiment, typical of everyone who’s obsessed with Russian tech.