Challenger 130mm Testbed does not belong to Germany

Ah but Greece is going to isreal as a sub tree so all would end up there

Better Idea, Combine all trees into one supertree

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a private company with headquarters in germany owned by american holders

I am fine with it all the time and repeating myself here.
I am just defending the history of that vehicle.
I dont like that brits twist the history of it and deny it to germany

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Have you read the title and initial comment of this thread?

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It is a German modification, so it should go to the German TT and then in the UK tree under the German flag

Still a German company.

Dude are you geniuenly trying to act as if Rheinmetall isnt german?

They have been in Düsseldorf since 1889…

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Even on their Official Website it says Düsseldorf
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Yes there is a Subsidiary Branch named American Rheinmetall however its as said a subsidiary and even that writes that the Headquarter is in Düsseldorf.
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Then get rid of nation matchmaking and then the arguements can finally stop

So do I, I am fine with adding Chally 130 to both nations, we Brits, or Brit mains, are not a hive mind. Maybe OP wanted to gatekeep from Germany, but I don’t agree with OP about ‘that part’

I am just here because I disliked and cannot agree with some part of the secondary arguments from you or other German mains
Such as… Canadian vehicle discussion, or the historical relationship with other Commonwealth nations.

If Gaijin acts as an arsehole and decides to give chally 130 to only one of two nations
We might think Albion should be home, because Chally 130 is based on Chally 2 chassis, and you guys may have fancier options, such as KF51 Panther, Leopard 3, or a 140mm gun project, such as Pz87-140
You lads might think Germany should be home, because 130mm cannons and turrets are based on Rheinmetal project, and British MoD eventually didn’t buy 130mm up-gun.

About this part, I don’t think we all might make an agreement, maybe we should’ve agree to disagree about this part long ago.

Agreeing about ‘Giving it to both would be better option’ tho

OF COURSE I DID.

And IIRC, I DIDN’T PUSH LIKE ON his initial comment, no?

Have you read my comments in this thread?

thats cute

https://www.investing.com/equities/rheinmetall-ownership

https://ir.rheinmetall.com/investor-relations/share/shareholder-structure

Then why are you asking? The thread is about the 130mm “not belonging” to germany and that Germany shouldnt get it. The comments are “nuh-uh and heres why”.
Not really surprising that a gatekeeping thread gets less friendly discussions.

What I meant by that question was

Why the hell are both sides arguing about it, wasting time with this, when we both just can agree about ‘both sides can have it’

And OP just went missing for approximately 3 months.

I reckon some british main, including me, came here because of some secondary arguments which weren’t that much friendly snapped fuse of ours, and maybe could agree with ‘why the hell are we arguing when both side having it is clean shot’

Sad part is, some lads came because there was something about ‘British has zero connection with that chally’ or ‘British has no connection with Canada or Australia’ and such, and came to say “nuh-uh- and heres why”

Thanks to OP who went missing approx 3 months, we all are wasted the damn time.

Yk the 2a4can has way more of a connection with Germany given how they were upgraded by kmw to suit Canadian needs in Afghanistan or how now their 2a6s are being modified within Germany to German ma3 (really) standard 🤷‍♀️ idk the link to their leopards seems a little more German

Won’t exist for about a decade lmao and for other big caliber guns yes. Germany has a lot because we have been the main researcher for them alongside the french nowadays

Because this upgunnded chally wasn’t even offered to the MOD it was purely for rheinmetalls private testing I’ve made it perfectly clear tho I want it for both in some way or another

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They are still a German company lmao

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clearly an american flag

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130 was offered to UK. They decided not to opt for it, until 130 is more wide spread, and there is stable ammo supply chain.

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