Challenger 1 MBT - Technical Data and Discussions

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But this still doesnt prove anything. Because no compositie is present anywhere in those pictures.

:Edit: armor couldve been installed in the hull already. There isnt proof they stayed hollow.

the armour is usually the last thing to be installed, it is also done in a secure location, it wouldnt be added to the shoulders and then main hull later.

Whose to say it wasnt installed though. At a secure location before that point? OR installed Later AT that location. See this is my point. Because the covers are obviously removable. BECAUSE there was composite in them.

they wouldnt seal it if it had armour to be put inside… and they wouldnt go half and half either, the armour is installed at once.

welding and then removing weakens the construction, that is not a valid option.

Thank you.

Now, explain this. If those covers are welded on. But theres nothing in them. THEN WHY does junkyard challenger have the covers “cut off” and the shoulders empty.

Because. Classified armor. Existed in those voids.

Not discounting your claim that they went to a secure location to be fitted with the nera

I don’t know, currently the balance of evidence suggests it doesnt

And im not sure how that assumption is being made. Because i just analyzed those photos again. And both of these photos show no signs of the mounting points for composites.

Those white lines arent protrusions.

And all of the evidence is base on an “assumption” that they arent filled because there arent mounting points. But junk yard challengers deactivation kinda proves that something had to be in there.

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Both upper glacis images are smooth in these pictures.

The white lines are the markings for the mounting rails… as for the challenger 2, thats the mounting plates welded on top

So if we are talking about challenger 1. Then why did u send a photo of a challenger 2 in production?

because it seems to apply to both, it also shows the shoulders being sealed before…

And the entire assumption of them being empty is because theres no conventional mounting points like the frontal armor, when the shoulders are partitioned and self contained.

yes, the challenger 2 also has no mounting points for the shoulders.

But nera is present in them…

and the proof of that is?

I dont see how what you send is any valid evidence. Because it just shows us what the hull looks like without composite fitted.

it shows no mounts are used on the shoulders…

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And theres no rail mounts on the side of the turret unlike the front of the turret on Junkyard challenger. But theres composite on the turret side.

And it takes a little bit of forethought. How on earth could you bold that armor in The SAME way as the front? If there were rails present. But you had spaced nera in the way of the mounting positions

Theres thousands of different ways to affix something to something else. But none of this statement is being taken into account. LET ALONE the fact that the frontal hull arc protection is nonexistent if these are left hollow. Which is egregious from a protection perspective