I wish they would fix some of the Challenger 1’s issues, especially since they’re adding modules that could reduce the tank’s performance.
Also looks absolutely nothing like the CR1/2 arrangement. Bet they asked Gemini to do it.
Shambles.
What can they change?
Been thinking about picking up a premium to grind Britain ground a little faster and was wondering if the Challenger DS is worth it? (I do enjoy a bit more of a slower playstyle if that helps)
The uptiers kinda suck (BMPToxic), but the Chally DS is one of the better 10.7s at the moment. Hopefully one or two of the more annoying issues on the CR1s will be resolved soon™ because we nagged like hell last major, but nothing yet.
Another option is the Khalid, which is a Chieftain Mk10 but with an upgraded engine. Also very decent at 9.3. (though not 100% sure if its available for purchase, think it is)
Thanks! Was considering the Khalid for a bit but i think the turret looks a little ugly imo :p (but i might get it instead since it’s a bit cheaper)
the Khalid is far more than a 9.3, it has been before and since the engine buff
not to mention the Mk.10 could get an engine buff of its own, up to 852ps through sundance which all Mk.10s undertook (up from the current 760ps)
Khalid could go to 9.7 right now with no changes with the DW and Rapier. And possibly a future Chieftain Mk.11 (only if it gets Sundance however)
I think it needs a small reload buff to finally push it over the edge.
all the chieftains could do, but the Khalid can easily go to 9.7 right now, with the proper L23A1 and a 5 or 6 second reload it might risk going to 10.0
Aktually it’s a Mk 5
It gets L23 and LRF, close enough
in reality its just L23
Chieftain Mk.5 has been robbed of its LRF for so long in game
I want to thank everyone who has been working hard to improve these vehicles and providing information to help fix their issues.
Some of the simpler problems with the Challenger 1s have taken a long time to address, so I wanted to ask if anyone has pictures of the Challenger DS with the additional armour fitted. It seems the lack of photos is being used as a reason not to move forward with the changes.
Considering how the Challenger DS has been handled, I’m surprised they didn’t add the Jordanian version instead.
I also want to thank everyone who contributed to the ready rack bug report. It’s great to see it was accepted, but after almost two years with no noticeable changes, it feels like it may have been forgotten which really sucks.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can provide pictures or additional information. It’s greatly appreciated, and hopefully it helps get these issues resolved.
Figure i’d post this video here as its Mr.Hewes & Co picking up a functional CR1 with some great shots inside for anyone interested.
Actually, some of the internal modeling of the Challenger 1 is also inaccurate. Recently, my friends and I looked into the Challenger’s internal modeling and put together the following report. We hope you’ll support it. :3
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/ENzMYopruc0l
Your diagram is the original fibreglass charge bin layout on early Mk.1 and Mk.2 Challenger 1s. It was changed to the armoured bins in the layout ingame on the Mk.3
I’ve written a bug report for this exact issue and it has been left unaddressed for 2 years..
The below is a picture of Challenger 1 Mk 3 ΛØC, the exact vehicle that the Challenger DS premium is based on, with the composite side skirts.

And this is Challenger 1 Mk 3 ΛØC prior to deployment in Desert Storm, without the add-on armour, as it appears in-game.
As with most armour packages in-game, it should be a toggle-able modification. So you have the option to chose between saving a few tons or being dripped out with an extremely nice looking but not particularly effective armour package. Though saying that, it does have its moments of usefulness.
On the base model in the TT it should be a toggle. Idk why tf gaijin wants to force you to be 67 tons.
The black Λ “arrowhead” symbol was a coalition-wide recognition symbol. It’s not the same as the A Squadron triangle symbol.
OC denotes it’s the 2IC’s tank from a squadron. So there would have been multiple tanks marked OC
Black rat on the side of the TOGS show’s it’s from 4th Armoured Brigade, so this one would have been from 14th/20th King’s Hussars. I don’t know if it’s been established which regt. the photo of “Challenger DS” is from
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