So you use yotubers video to prove your point.
Whos sources for the accuracy of the gun, are from the chieftain, a tank that is from 1966 and its accuracy tests.
Meanwhile In the real world, teh challanger again is being touted as highly accurate, and even won the Iron spear competition against the abrams and leopards that were there. so yeah it is an accurate gun, the tanks accuracy isnt its issue.
Also most youtubers (if not all) are heavily biased, especially red effect if he likes a tank, hell shout its amazing, if he dislikes it, facts regardless (as shown in the linked video) he will try find a way to say it sucks, e.g using the chieftains accuracy charts from decades previous to the challanger 2 to try say that the tank is innacurate.
you do realise on the chieftain as well it had about a 97% first shot hit rate as well in trials, go watch the tank chats from the bovington tank museum on it. or better go see it yourself!.
(they can be biased as well)
The fact is, the tank gun mounted on teh challanger 2 is not identical to the chieftain cannon at all, even ingame they have different names.
The challanger 2 tank is a highly accurate tank. that was never questioned.
dont just copy a piece out of the comment of what i said, I did also say that that too can be biased. though the tank museum is more reputable than red effect as a source.
But neither the statistics from a trial from 1973 (which i believe is red effect source of dispersion etc) nor the tank museums claim are relevant to the CR2 which is incredibly accurate.
Im not taking only that lol
I quoted that bit specifically as its something i have a good amount on
I dont recall any dispersion, its mostly a report on crew abilities and doctrine
but yeah thats 1973 and the challenger 2 is 1998, big difference especially in technology
Examples…? Because the few times it had gone up against its NATO peers (ex: Kuwaiti 1992 trials of M1A2 versus CR 2 & Hellenic Trials of 1998 - 99) it did not perform admirably.
Needless to say, UK with their CR 2 came up sixth (offensive OPS include gunnery…).
The only time that I can think of, where CR 2 managed to beat its competition, was last year in Latvia or Estonia (Iron Spear 2023). In this year’s CAT (Canadian Army Trophy) they lost to Canada as well.
Having read it as well, the CR2 was basically just out of prototype phases against a far more mature tank. as the M1A2 was what 5 years ahead of the CR2 in development as it went into IOC in 94 was it?
The 2E and the charges does make sense to affect accuracy but still shows the issues at the time. However.
(off topic but interesting from that report Is the warrior)
In 1992 RO was rapidly approaching the chopping block, an desperately seaking contracts and was uh quite boastful to stave off the government of the time selling them off. I would take any comments by them with a grain of salt
M1A2s IOC was in 1992. Its development also began only in early 1989 if my memory serves me correctly. That aside, CR 2 being “straight out prototype phase” is kind of cope (no offense), it was supposed to enter service in 1994 as it had already been mostly finished. It was only held back til 1998 due to automotive issues (reliability).
