Challanger 2 Armour and Reload

Genuinely curious, if we are any further forward with any of the bug reports for the challanger 2s armour, or its reload past the ready rack.
The tank right now is absolutely horrific to use at top tier and after the merkava and ariete both got 5 second reloads now feels completely pointless to use.

So im wondering, what are ways that the challanger 2 could be made more competative in warthunder?
personally I believe a buff to its reload speed out with the ready rack, or ready rack size would be a great start , bringing it up to par with the leopard 2s.
And its armour, the lower frontal plate of the challanger 2 (which is pretty big) can be penetrated, and ammo detonated by even world war two medium tanks, tested with the T-34-57 , PZIV, M4A1 (76) W. at 500 meters frontally. this issue must be addressed in some regard.

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There is video proof that CR2 had been reloaded in under 4 seconds but gaijin refuses to acknowledge it

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the chali 2 at least has some armor, merkava and ariete are both made of cardboard (merkava isnt supposed to be but there are many reports on that).

It will take a while for the chalis, arietes, and merkavas to get fixed, mostly because they aren’t russian.

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But it really doesnt, the breach is massive and is easily sliced into. the turret cheeks are formidable but no one shoots them (due to how large the LFP and breach are).
and both the merkava and ariete are far, far more mobile.

While i do completely agree the merkavas armour is underperforming as well but at least it has the reload, round and mobility. I want to see the tanks and air become balanced but its just not gonna happen.

the thing with the merkava is that ur turret armor can get penned easily when irl it isnt realisic. Meaning even if only your turret is exposed, someone can still get a shot out and maybe take out your loader or commander(maybe even gunner). At least Britain has the chali 3 with dm53 as an alternative until the chali 2 gets fixed, but all mk4’s face the same problem with the unrealistic armor.

They don’t and wont accept videos as proof as they can be sped up and what not.

But the challanger 2 past the first 5 rounds for me with a fully leveled crew in loading and what not (not expert on the BN or 2E) with expert on the challanger 2 its about 7.6 seconds. witout its over 8 seconds reload with a fully level crew

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yeah exactly, minor nations that really need a buff rarely get one because gajin usually only buffs russia or usa. USA for example isnt a bad lineup , just the teams are the problem, not the tanks. No matter how many bug reports are made, gajin seems to not care for now unless that nation has good premium sales.

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the challanger 2 (and 3) face the exact same issue with the turret, its breach spot its absolutely massive, and as has been proved the commander and gunner sit literally to high in the tank meaning you can shoot the optics at almost any range and take them both out.

The merkava with the 5 seconds reload, and better mobility over all, and turret traverse etc is better than teh challanger 2 and 3.

They both need fixed as i said, but rn the challanger 2 is left behind even the merkavas and arietes are better.

they accept videos from official websites of the tanks manufacters. You can send them the link to the website where you got the videos and they can check it themselves.

i just got the M1A2, brother why it sits at 11.7 is beyond me, even with m829 it trumps all the challanger 2s at 11.7 (and almost every other 11.7)

the american vehicles are great. the players not so much

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they rejected the ones for the type10 reload, leclerc reload (if i remember rightly) and challanger 2 reloads.

As far as i know as well the two ammo bins next to the driver on teh challanger 2 cant exist due to the change of the interior are also there.

I don’t think you understand exactly why the Challenger hasn’t been exported; while the leopard has.

The Challenger isn’t even Aguably close to the best Western MBT. It has the worst mobility, requires extensive maintenance, and the worst accuracy of all the Western MBT’s.

I’m not even saying that out of spite; it’s just rubbish.

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i can understand breach, but the merkavas face the same thing, the turret cheeks can get penned easily by all top tier rounds, the turret cheeks even have a recent bug where he can kill the vehicle easily. The entire front plate of a merkava can get penned easily and along with that the merkavas already have bad gun depression, making them bad for hill peaks, along with that merkavas have the engine in the front to help with crew survivability(it doesnt do any favor in WT), meaning the engine in the front only hurts and doesn’t even help like it should.

Overall the best thing we can do is pray that gajin hears us

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the main thing the chali 2 has going for it is its armor, which in wt isn’t realistic at all

they probably didn’t accept those videos because they may have not been from the official websites

theres audio too and very obvious that it wasn’t sped up, however it was loading from the closest charge bustle to the loader, its not so easy from the further ones.

where did i say it was the best western MBT? at all. It has great cross country performance (for its size and weight as ive said) due to the sophisticated hydrogas suspension, which has been proven to be highly effective.

It has the worst accuracy?
almost every report on the CR2 cannon has its accuracy being top notch , the issue isnt the accuracy the issue is the fact that it wears faster than smoothbore counterparts, and has laughably worse penetration in its darts due to the 3 stage ammunition.

That’s about it though, everything else is still pretty lackluster for it.

yes, but its made to be an armor fortress, probably better than other mbts in game rn in terms of armor

Yes, it’s hot garbage; it’s literally all because it’s a rifled bore.