CAS problem

Really tells us a lot about this guy’s character doesn’t it?

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So true.
Vocal minority wouldn’t be able to split the player base of a mode with tens of thousands of people.

You made that guy fall into his own hole, impressive.

I’m reading this 9 hours later and he still haven’t answered it properly, even after multiple replies.

I guess it’s time to delete ARB if we want to follow his claim.

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Unfortunately, statshark statistics say another thing. More like low reward for such high cost.

Current avg_kills_for_spawn for players in GRB (admin from statshark dis said there both ground+aviation). If we calculate the average according to the graph, it will be ~ 0,83.

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Summary kills and spawns for all ground vehicles from Statshark in July = (212380918 ground_kills + 16008846 air_kills)/ 273058604 spawns = 0,836412992

Of course, the situation is different on some br but in general the situation is like this: In war thunder aviation on average is ± on par with ground vehicles while costing much-much more. So apparently it’s either really difficult for average player, or aviation is not nearly as effective as many people think. You can choose any option you like.

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APS will intercept it like it nothing

Pretty simple, but people refuse to understand why there’s a problem with this ignorance and driven mentality.

You want a mode, to avoid a threat, all so you can function, and that is the problem… The game is as it is… People play it, the ones who are complaining aren’t a genuine majority.

Any polls and threads that pop up are going to be populated by the aggreived, and they get upset at how dare ANYONE comment negatively about what they want, or dare to advise them on methods to handle such a problem.

And then they get antsy, insulty, and from there they become beligerant and argumentative because others refuse to agree with them, and maintain thier position.

There exists no APS system on Earth or in development that could counter a 28cm shell. We’re talking a ballistic energy of 125 MJ, which is an entire order of magnitude higher than anything an APS system is designed to counter (not even including if the shell has an explosive load!).
For example, the M829A3 has a ballistic energy of only up to ~12 MJ.
Even CIWS would be out-of-scope.

Watching CAS haters fall into their own holes over and over again is always hilarious.

I hate to say this but… no.
It’s because you can’t help but make yourself a genuinely unlikable character - and though ideally that shouldn’t affect the points made, it makes it hard to agree with because then we’re associated with you.
You sound like a fedora-tipping sweat, hiding insecurity behind snark and projection, and you don’t even have the stats (and/or skill) to justify it.
Nobody likes that, not even other sweats.
Look at me!
I’m unskilled.
Downright trash, in the grand scheme of things.
I also have plenty of opinions of my own!
But I try to be polite.
To extend an olive branch wherever possible.
Just as I have been and am doing with you.
Not everyone wants the exact same things you do.
Not everyone will agree with you.
Boo hoo.
Stop whining, stop crying.
Suck it up.
They are entitled to their desires, and to express them.
You are welcome and encouraged to leave the thread any time you like.

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Funny way to say you don’t know what the argument is about and don’t care to go back and find out…

Go and explain how AlanHR came to the point that CAS was a crutch compared to struggling players demanding thier own mode…

To be honest, they say that it’s about the stats, but I’d hazard a guess that when they chum up the thread like they do, and the guppies come in, it’s literally just because I have flying in my name and they think I fly all the time.

There’s a very easy mob to manipulate in reality, on all the platforms, that I’m sure the aggrieved post on all 3-5 and then proclaim they still have a majority even when checked about doubling up.

I’ve had kids attack me because of flying, but also been all ‘You’re not even a doctor’ which I commonly come back with ‘no crap… never said I was’

I mean, feel free to take what isn’t there.
If only I found “going with the herd” so easy, my life would certainly be a lot smoother if I could.
But I’ll take it you won’t take the advice of someone who actually wants to show patience with you, then.

The difference is that You agree that s person in a tank can’t do much to a person in a plane (in most cases) and I haven’t seen You being against TO just for the sake of it.

What is easier?

Destroying Tiger II H with 5.7 tank when You both know about each other and both can attack or spawning reserve tank, capping a zone and spawning a plane with a bomb to destroy That Tiger II H.

All people know what is easier, You might not want to agree with it but most people after playing this game knows It. Air allows people to be able to destroy enemy players that normally would give them hard time on the ground, making the game easier for them in process.

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I’m not looking for your advice, but you’ve seriously jumped into the middle of a major cat fight on a forum, where people are throwing around insults and attacks more than anything, so if you can’t see that those who are throwing those attacks arround willy nilly, and take on board that they may be unwarranted and that your opinion formed about the person who is being attacked is incorrect and misguided, well…

This thread had gone off-rail. Please be civil and get back on topic.

thank you.

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The common rebuttals which come from this mere sentiment of not being on board.

Mods to the rescue!

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I loved this portion…

How is a seperate mode, not easier… xD

As I have described:

Then don’t play the tank-only mode.
That’s coming from someone who would still play the combined-arms mode if a tank-only mode were introduced.