CAS problem

[FlyingDoctor]

@Herojure24

And how would you know what I think?

So you’ve answered a page of post, and just thrown out a simple short burst of nothing special, so excuse me if I am a little blunt with this…

You stated that you ‘know’ that the teams are blind deaf and mute, and that’s what they think to…

You stated this.

@Herojure24

I most enjoy playing light tanks and scouting enemies constantly as well as marking them on the map.

That’s all good, and what many others do, without problem…

But you said there was 95% of your team were blind deaf mute, so being that there’s not 320%, you’re saying there’s less than a player, per team, who’s ‘open’ which is wrong… But, it’s still the same as what everyone else is thinking.

@Herojure24

If I play any other type I also point out people on the map if I cannot get a nice shot on them or I mess up and have to reload.

Again, Absolutely fine, commendable even.

@Herojure24

Chat is usually to slow for coordination sadly.

But this, this is straight up wrong, on so many fronts that it has to be shown to you.

You assume everyone is blind mute and deaf because no-one uses the chat in the first place… Slow or not, it’s the true show of whether or not someone is there.

A positive line at the start of a battle can make everybody actually win by just knowing that someone, said ‘Lets do this people’.

And that’s where a certain other mindset takes hold, and people start trying more.

If you don’t use the chat at all, you’re just going to encounter more like yourself… Assuming that everyone is absolutely not there.

[AlanHR]

Because it’s not going to be safer for me because in ground mode, one needs to spawn a ground vehicle first. So, one needs to deal with ground issues only from ground level. There is no CAS help with tough opponents being in difficult places.

Here is another logic premise you set yourself up.
You stated my logic is screwed because I want something. The same can be said for you. Your logic is screwed up because you don’t want something.

[FlyingDoctor]

@Herojure24

You also appear to not understand the meaning of the word crutch being used here

And again, I know how I used crutch here.

[FlyingDoctor]

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[noamax]

No but if u shoot from radar screen ur missile will auto guide and wouldnt get punished with the whaley machanic
This gives things like vt1 slingers 8-10km no fly zone and make it much easier to shoot enemies down

And its even stronger in spaas with lead mode like pantsir and tor(i testted it only on the pantsir but i assume it acts tge same if not better on the tor)

Best cas seekers like kh 38 have 14km lock max range on perfect conditions so the new spaas like slm claws cs5 csn outrange it

[Herojure24]

I will admit 95% is too high. I concede this point. You can however not deny a large part of the team is often quite useless.

I stated 95 mostly because in pretty much any case I try to rely on teammates to hold a flank or cap. Or even to hold a sightline next to me, relying on them often gets me killed.

Chat is too slow that’s just how it is. If I am in a fight with enemies the 5-10 seconds it takes me to type a message might well get me killed. I am not a speed typer that can blurt out a sentence or two in 3 seconds.

[Herojure24]

Why the need to reply to the same argument twice?

[FlyingDoctor]

@Herojure24

I will admit 95% is too high. I concede this point. You can however not deny a large part of the team is often quite useless.

You’ll have to concede the entire thing because the chat I use in the starts of matches makes people more attentive.

@Herojure24

Why the need to reply to the same argument twice?

Because I’m reitteating to ensure you don’t jump on board with Alan anymore…

@Herojure24

I stated 95 mostly because in pretty much any case I try to rely on teammates to hold a flank or cap. Or even to hold a sightline next to me, relying on them often gets me killed.

You’re just making numbers up because that’s how it is… 75% of stats are made up on the spot… you know…

@Herojure24

Chat is too slow that’s just how it is.

It is if you’re in combat but then it’s already too late for that… Use it to whip up attention in the start.

@Herojure24

I am not a speed typer that can blurt out a sentence or two in 3 seconds.

Just try at the start to call on people to use chat more… It’s nothing much but it will get peopel noticing you more.

Always.

Same with SPAA in this thread, if peopel use it, then awesome, but if people avoid using it, then they compound the issue in the same exact manner.

[AlanHR]

No, players want TO because they are not interested in the air part of the game. They don’t play ARB or use planes in GRB (now that one can check one’s lineup, I see players with only ground units in their lineups).

In GRB, CAS is the crutch used to dislodge tough enemies from difficult places (it’s stated in any CAS thread).

[FlyingDoctor]

@AlanHR

No, players want TO because they are not interested in the air part of the game.

@AlanHR

They don’t play ARB or use planes in GRB (now that one can check one’s lineup, I see players with only ground units in their lineups).

That absolutely doesn’t say that at all… Hell, I’ve even got lineups that don’t have planes…

@AlanHR

In GRB, CAS is the crutch used to dislodge tough enemies from difficult places (it’s stated in any CAS thread).

No it’s not… The crutch is the want to avoid the planes because you can’t handle them… The villainization of CAS leads to them making stupid statements about why people don’t want planes to be excluded from a special mode just for you because no-one can understand why people don’t agree with them and it makes it easier to attack whoever dared to object.

Absolutely daft to assume that because people don’t ahve planes in thier GRB lineup that they don’t want planes in the mode… So absolutely delusional.

[Herojure24]

I don’t recall jumping on board with alan.

Of course my statistic was made up on the spot. There is not an official way to get info on how useless people are in game. It’s just how it feels when playing.

How do you whip up attention at the start if people don’t even read chat? What do you say to get them to be more attentive? I just don’t have the picture in my head hpw chat at the start makes teammates pay attention when chat at the start is either dead silent or some random crap.

[FlyingDoctor]

@Herojure24

How do you whip up attention at the start if people don’t even read chat?

That’s the thing, they actually do… Even if they don’t respond, someone seen it.

[FlyingDoctor]

@FlyingDoctor

IF YOU HAD YOUR MODE. . . . . . . . . . . Mother of god in christ and all that crap… READ… UNDERSTAND…

You’re wanting a seperate mode to make you safe and sound from planes because you can’t handle them… YOU want the crutch.

Stop false flagging whoever it is… That statement is damn valid…

[Herojure24]

Your argument of people not being able to handle planes is a bad faith argument. Of course we cannot handle planes when tanks dont have the means to engage them, apart from also focusing on ground targets that are a mlre immediate threat to them.

[_Renzo]

@FlyingDoctor

To be honest, the way people dismiss skill and thinking astounds me as to how you think you play a game ‘competitively’ in the first place… Such sour puss attitudes about the person who’s behind the keyboard rather than acknowledging the effort and skill in getting you the way they got you.

I have 650 games in the P-47 and 295 games in the F2G-1 and that is exactly my experience though. The overwhelming majority of my deaths only happened because I made a mistake or my goldfish attention span made it so I got bored of playing normally.

Even the smallest manouvres are enough to make spaa miss.

[Herojure24]

You did not answer my question. How do you do it? What do you say? Is there a magic spell you utter?

[Ghost_of_TelAviv]

Just ping the mods, in other threads they warn people of false flagging.

[FlyingDoctor]

@Herojure24

Your argument of people not being able to handle planes is a bad faith argument.

Well, that’s what the thread is about and the refusal to accept any method to handle them is typical for the thread.

@Herojure24

Of course we cannot handle planes when tanks dont have the means to engage them, apart from also focusing on ground targets that are a mlre immediate threat to them.

You’re not alone, you have a team… You also have the option to spawn SPAA yourself.

[FlyingDoctor]

I actually can’t report posts and flagging them just draws them to delete all the posts en mass ruining what’s been established here lol…

The fact that AlanHR has made such a distinct logic failure to almost misresporesent what’s been put forth, same with ULQ, it’s just so obvious there is no discussion allowed unless you line up with them…

[Herojure24]

Ah yes I have the option to spawn SPAA. But I dont want to. I spawned a tank to play a tank and fight tanks. And you say I should just abandon the tank and spawn spaa beacuse some bastard decided it would be funny to spawn a plane I can ot dp anything against?

Typical CASbrain answer. Just spawn AA or just let your teammates do it.