Tell that to the ppl who get spawned camped or die from 12km after pantsir intercepted all the maveriks
Just because some players are unable to play well doesn’t mean that others can’t do what they can’t
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I literally watched Tornado dodge a Pantsir from 10km away while killing his teammate.
Same can be said about bad pantsir players which are all over the place
And i saw pantsir hit 17km shot
Congrats u saw a good tornado player
Also he probably lost all its speed and died shortly after
So we need to compare vehicles instead of players and in that comparison air vehicles always have the upper hand
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Maybe kh38 slinger against pantsir but against nato cas pantsir is superior
The pantsir doesnt need to search for the aircraft
It has much faster missile and it can itercept incoming ammunition with no issue when the aircraft must stay out of 10km and keep dodging or it will die
I’ve also seen 5.0 tank kill a 12.0 one but it doesn’t mean it’s effective at that.
Just dropped down out of sight.
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What im saying is u cant judge by individuals.
pantsir is far from invincible when facing top tier CAS. if the plane knows about the pancir and has anti ground missiles it can do many things to counter a pantsir.
war thunder maps are an entire rabbit hole alone and will never be solved at this pace (not that maps are getting better at any pace)
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maybe you just call everything which goes against this point cope. tanks can seek cover next to buildings, drive past dead tanks (agm switches lock to the dead tank) and pop smoke to prevent a lock overall.
We are going wrong way about CAS pandemic
Instead of campaigning for removal of CAS from Ground Battles we should be campaigning for addition of AI Air Defences in Air Only mode.
That way when they fly their premium planes and get shot down after taking of or before reaching enemy …they will know that it is not fun.
You(CAS Enjoyers) must be one of them people with bees in empty skull to think that spawning 16 planes during GRB is FUN
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this is barely ever possible
this would require the CAS to be blind
you would have to do this from the beginning of the battle until the end nonstop
it is fun, but only for the CAS and nobody else
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Getting hit beyond 13km in a Pantsir is an actual skill issue btw. Because that missile flies like a whale after the booster phase
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practically every map has buildings, what are you talking about?
not sure what youre saying here. if a TV guided missile is coming at you, you can drive past a corpse. doing this will lead the TV guided missile to the corpse and not you.
sometimes you can smell CAS away, like when you kill a player who scored a lot of SP.
Just get an SA-22 and shot down planes
But you don’t see people talking about that do you , they would rather see pantsir nerf than having anything actual worth talking done to the CAS problem in ground. Because it is Russia.
CAS problem linked so many aspect of Ground yet all they care is Su-34 Strong/Pantsir OP please nerf. It is always funny cause I get called Anti-Nato/Anti-US for calling them out
i would have to sit like a rat behind a big rock or building the entire game if i wanted to be safe from CAS. its not a viable strategy
this is not a viable play style either, and its more of a hack than a solution to the problem of CAS. im not gonna be driving back and forth next to a corpse to shake off any potential missiles the whole game.
i can smell CAS every match for the entire duration of the match.
if i survive for a minute longer than usual i immediately think about how a plane must be coming any minute, and unless we have a rare fast overwhelming victory, im always right
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Another good tip is to play multiple factions. Sometimes u can have 6 crew locks running at once after u quit every match against Russia.
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thats a good tip to make your nation lose against russia even more than it needs to. and regardless its not a fix for the actual issue which affects all nations including russia