I am not claiming to want realism or claiming that this game is realistic. Those who are arguing for the “realism” of CAS in ground battle are the ones who are arguing for realism.
I am saying that if one is going to cry “realism!” then lets make it damn real!
Since I am not demanding realism, except from those who claim CAS in this game is because “it is war and war involves CAS!” (which is a claim that asserts realism in this game), I do not think we should get rid of respawns.
No, demanding CAS spawn away from the battlefield and demanding that they fight through AA and CAP. which IRL is not destroyed prior to entry by CAS, - it is always a game of cat and mouse with AA and CAP, - is not dumb, or it is just as dumb as spawning CAS over the battle field or expecting to be upopposed when spawning into CAS. Or saying CAP and AA are destroyed before CAS enters the battlespace.
Yes, I do think that if you spawn in a tank you should not be able to then spawn a plane…if we are demanding to keep the “realism” of CAS in GAB or GRB.
If people insist upon CAS being present in all game modes “Because it is war and realistic!” If it is insisted upon the “realism” of CAS spawning over a battlefield, not having to fight through AA and CAP in insertion, over and exiting the battlespace, then the standards are to the same and one should not go from ground vehicle to plane and back to ground vehicle.
If you want to say that it is a game and realism is not part of it, then sure, lets keep it but don’t argue against those who want the unrealistic tank only game mode. It harms no one. CAS supporters get their game mode and those who do not like playing with CAS get theirs.
I have had 3-4 matches back-to-back all deaths by CAS for the past three days alone, while some matches in between I was killed by something else, does that somehow downplay how annoying it was getting killed by CAS more than enemy tanks? there were also matches where both teams doesn’t spawn any planes that I called it a heaven. So what number do you considered annoying? 10-consecutive-death by CAS? I have had moment close to that, it was 7 in 10 matches.
The longer my tank lives the more likely I get bombed, it could have been anyone who saw my gun muzzle flash, scout marker or hit marker, it doesn’t have to be the person I previously killed, CAS engage anything they can see as long as they have bombs.
Yes, excaklty… having an additional mode will not harm anyone…
except that no one will go into the combined mode anymore and the waiting times will raise again.
I dont mind having waiting times, any LoL player will know that a bit of waiting is better then having unbalanced teams.
And that the Combined mode, in case we get a tank only mode, will likely not be very populated, just shows how bad the mode is in shape rigth now. U could fix combined modes ofc… just give the damn CAS only 1-2 Missles/Bombs and make them cost more then the Attackerdrone and the problem will be reduced by 1000% already.
So in conclusion… why do people NOT want a Tank only mode? Because then they are afrait the the combined battles will be pretty empty…
None because I don’t allow CAS to make a difference in matches. I only died to CAS 10% to 25% of the time within a 10 to 25 matches or more. Never died to CAS more than 4 times in a row before, also never reached 7 or 10 deaths in a row because I don’t allow it. If anything, majority of the matches I will come out with air kills with whatever I can use that’s available while many won’t bother looking at the sky for CAS to avoid them or support a team with call outs. I don’t do this 1 death leave thing because of CAS like you do or the others. I play this game way more differently than you do for GRB. Have I died 3 times in a row to CAS before? Yes. Does it bother me? No, why? I’ll just spawn in SPAA/SAM/Tanks with Proxy Fuse rounds to take it down before it makes a difference in the battlefield instead of 1 death leaving, then hop back to a tank when my job is over.
If i remember correctly, someone called my games a dream game because of how I handled CAS and still continue enjoying my tank gameplay. I can’t recall who or when tho.
Yes, you can intentionally do things so you don’t die to CAS, or less likely, like doing things that could more likely get yourself killed by enemy tanks. Not surprise mate, some never die to CAS not even once in 30 matches or more I believe because their playstyle couldn’t survive most tank to tank encounter, or they are CAS players themselves. Still, it’s annoying to be killed so often by something your favorite vehicle has no counter against when you play them the intended way instead of brawling head-on.
No what he meant is each person gaming experience is different. You can’t just say “Because I experience A like X , so when everybody experience A , they should also meet X”. It doesn’t work like that
is this an argument for a Tank Only mode or Against it? I dont get it.
The better u play, the more likely u die on CAS… does that fit into a Good PvP game? No.
… end of discussion :D
*the better you play and if youre in every match till the end you will get out of 12.0 with (i would guess) atleast 1 death by CAS per round, and for me and many others thats 50% of the spawns
*2 and u dont even need to play a tank at all anymore in combined battles… have seen battles where russians go heli firstspawn and then jump into su30
Are you implying that it is a bad thing? it is not, pushers playing an important role at applying map pressure, the good ones could have KD as high as 5kd so it obviously work, and they mostly die to enemy tanks due to their playstyle.
Ok look , I’m pretty sure personal experience and each person gameplay should be taken into account. You play good , you don’t allow CAS to have influence on the game , sure good on you. But what we interest in is the effect of CAS on a game overall. With this we have to assume that all player have the same skill floor in order to judge other aspect. One of them being “What CAS can do and how much effect can it do on a game”. This , however , does not take your own personal experience in as one of the main aspect. When 99% of player who play GRB can see that CAS is still extremely strong, even the tool offer , are still underwhelming compare to their CAS counter part.
Im not saying you are bad or anything. Im just saying that what you just assumed is wrong and your personal experience doesn’t serve as one of many reason why CAS is fine because you can deal with it
What is funny to me… we talk about that some players have skills to make enemy CAS not “affect their game”… but the CAS dont need skill… they play a point and click adventure with a video on the second monitor… thats the level of toptier CAS right now… and thats what is so super frustrating…
you sweat your ass off and show your skills… then one fucking guy goes into a KA-50 (or whatever CAS) and kills you while sipping a tee in one hand… and then u respawn and he kills you again xD
I alone shred whole teams on all nations with my CAS on almost all BRs
If no one goes counter, i will wipe their whole team in minutes.
My recent 85% position and 69% recent winrate dosnt come out of nowhere lol
If i keep using my A2D in GRB i likely sit at 75% recent winrate in 1-2 weeks (which is unlikely as i dont play the same for more then a few matches usually)
Does it put you in a better mood if i tell you that it has the allison t-40 engine a similar one to the one of the XF-84H Thunderscreech one if not the loudest plane ever built? :-) very unique sound also in game, i think thats what ppl should put more focus on, like the actual unique parts of vehicles you can play in this game and not that its too strong and you can ruin 1000s of ppls fun in game for hundreds of matches. That just gets boring.
Theres also a massive boom if you manage to mg its 4000 pd bomb while hes flying around