Iris-t, meteor , better aim 120for efts, as well ad the AMK kit already being tested years ago.
Hornets get aim 9x and better aims yeah
But like i said thats it. The F-35 for either switzerland and germany dont even exist yet
And i respect the canadian history.
Ita just the addition to a video game is questionable
Won’t germany receive it this year though? 5th gen Won’t be added this year
Most likely they would be modifications for EF aesa
Wrong thread for this, but u never know with gajin.
Its not above them to let us grind more
it was seven years between warrior and fox.
yes it very much did.
Arrogance to culture and history is how that became a thing
didnt know the typhoon was at 12.3-12.7, a BR where we have the mediocre mess that is tornado and GR7 harrier.
you mean the stopgap before storm warning because high tier britain was literally dead at the time?
you support indian additions and they change the UK tree in a far more unpleasant way - soviet vehicles from a country that hasnt been aligned with us since 1947.
Should have been naval, we ruled the seas for half a millenia but thats now nothing more than a russians dream for if the USSR was able to build boats.
our air tree is easily the best, most well rounded tree until 6.7 having turnfighters, strikers, bombers and plenty else that are competitive. Falls off a cliff into irrelevancy until 9.7 with SRAAM hunter, this is where the canadair and CAC sabres come in. Gives britain a competitive early jet fighter within the current compressed nightmare that ww2-korea gen jets are in.
Our tanks have always been a steady reliable underdog in WT. theres some really bad BRs, either from russia thunder or from bad modelling. where there isnt heavy nation biases and things are modelled well you find britain at the top. Look at chieftain (ignoring the missing LRF from mk5), centurion and the firefly.
more challengers doesnt fix the top tier issue, it would only gloss over challengers being done wrong as you have more sacrifices to the Leopard/abrams meta. at least a 2a6m would mean if the challengers selective realism kneecaps stay there is one vehicle thats on par.
Unfortunate for us all but war thunder runs off of nationalistic factions. we have vehicles that played very special roles in our cultures, family and friends served with the very vehicles we see in game so theres a person with a patriotic and personal connection to every last vehicle we see in game. being careless and heavy handed with such things is inherently going to cause issues.
Canada is a very good example of this issue.
Canadians are proud to not be Americans from 1812 so putting them there is an insult to a very special part of their history and culture. Just like they are proud to have opposed Germany in the world wars.
The actual Canucks in this thread have all expressed a dislike to OPs proposal as they would all prefer to either have an independant tree or be with britain.
Myself as an Englishman with family across the former empire and now commonwealth, i dont want to see my Anglosphere cousins be screwed over in such a culturally insensitive manner, being part of a commonwealth arm of the british tree (which does seem to be the way gaijin is going) is the most appropriate way forward as putting a countries kit into several trees is annoying for nation collectors and shows a lack of care for a country. Thats why im so vocal about canada being in the british tree.
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I would say it’s the least horrible option
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its the best of a rough situation. too much C&P for an independent tree (another china like tree thats almost all C&P would suck from a generic gaming perspective), thrown in the tree of a nation of which a good chunk of cultural identity was forged out of fighting against being part of, or being a dominion to your old colonial leader again.
Load shotgun
AHEM
Okay we forget UK
Just quoting gajin there.
Its how gajin gets most of their ideas.
Ah the low tier hornets. U say that like the hornets arent mediocre as well.
They had been added way to late and got outperformed by most stuff. They turn well, but are quite slow.
Only reasons the low tier hornet kinda survives in that environment is cause gajin increased F-16 capabilities for most nations, instead of adding new ones.
And what if it is a stop gap? Its still a great plane that did UK a lot of good.
Its a video game, i look more at balance then allegiance. And britain just already has to much.
I am still of the opinion that germany is more equal to UK and france, then it is to us/russia and now china potential wise.
Overall the swiss tree still is quite limited and more of the same. The only realy unique top tier addition is the hornets, which arent all to great.
While british subtree ones bring a qay bigger diversity and potential.
Navals dead, we both know that. Its never gonna be the focus.
I disagree with that either way as well.
Gajin did a lot recently to cripple those tanks. Beginning with the turret baskets.
They are by far not as surviveable anymore.
I do not support the addition as a subtree either.
But when it comes down to it. Its best either split. Indiginous vehicles to uk.
Or some vehicles just not added at all.
Not everything has to be added to the game.
Canada is no subtree.
We all are yes. Thats why germans defend their own inventions as well.
Its not fair when other nations can claim their exports while we cant.
While the canadian 2a6m isnt anytjing special.
And we dont need it doesnt mean it should just be added to the UK.
Leopards are nearly everywhere.
But every nation is a rightful user and has a right to them. Matter of fact is just that canada is not an officialy added nation tonthe game with a standalone or a subtree. No tree has just a right to their vehicles. The developers/exporters have the most claim.
Gajin should focus on the unique indiginous canadian vehicles. Those can be added to the UK without problems. But the others, just dont necesarily need to be added
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@Smin1080p_WT just my guess, but you would make a lot of people happy if you could confirm there is no canadian subtree planned for the US either
Yeah cause germany already had multiple bocers and fnf vehicles.
Uk had no boxer or fnf vehicle at all.
You already got challengers so u dont need leopards.
Besides that u got a weird tech demo boxer variant snd not even the service version
Well, I don’t agree with the “too much C&P for a tree”, as it’s got more than enough unique stuff, plenty for a tree/joint tree with the ANZACs. No matter how you paint it, Canada can make about 3+ lines of unique to mostly unique, leading to status quo additions forcing Canadian’s to spend billions of dollars for their stuff due to having that much, only someone who hates their nation/people there would think that’s a good thing.
On the other hand, there is enough British C&P to have a mostly unique sub-tree (and not a pure C&P like others), leading to the UK is the only tree for them, if it had to be a sub-tree as it removes the C&P do to the UK, also using it (like much of the “American” equipment duing WW2 comes for British stocks) or it’s just a British vehclies as fair more of those wern’t licensed built (domestic varints (which Canada & Austrlia have plenty of)) not to say we didn’t have a good number of those as well for British stuff.
I’ve made the point on how I’ve had to grind or buy stuff in half the tree in-game just for my Canada collection, as I went for Canadian-built/partly built(only if a major piece was ex. Hull) as well, and I’ll have to future-proof the collection by grinding every tree in-game as they all can get 1 or more Canadian things (with majorty being more).
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I think you are right. It should be more of a chef’s sprinkle of vehicles like the Canadian super hornets in the British tech tree, and other Canadian ground vehicles in the US tree.
That crazy that you didn’t look the discussion at all and say something completely reversed from the actual conversation
No Canada is Canadian
You see this number little one? It’s all the people that doesn’t want to be in your tech tree because we are not Americans
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ehhh, relativ. the community just always likes new stand alone trees.
dont think there is a single one who did badly.
But look at switzerland and benelux, still only delegated to subtrees.
And the reason why the canadian subtree is unlikely i already told you more then enough times
only export US vehicles should be added to the US.
The lavs is not a US export, its indiginous canadian and can be added to UK without problem
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The lav 25 A1 and A2 were both made by the USMC in tandem with GD during iraq.
All of these are only bought by the US especially the LAV ATM and AT. These variants are 100% american.
Side note, LAVAD is also american.
Common wealth nations should be under the same tree until their militaries stop pledging allegiance the the King or Queen of the Commonwealth. Pretty simple.