The M4A5 wasn’t added to USA because they share a border, it was added there most likely because the M4A5 is derivative of an American design, being the M3 Lee.
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Well, particularly the M4 Sherman.
No the tank with closest relations with Ram is the M3 Lee. (fun fact the Ram is older than the Sherman only by about a month but older never the less). So Mahiwew is right
The tank based on the Sherman in Canada is called the Grizzly.
don’t believe me there is a tech tree with links to post up at the top here with that info.
also, M4A5 isn’t even the name of the tank nor is the one in game the Ram the US called that name.
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M4A5 was the name of the Ram II tanks USA was to suppose to recieve from their order, but they cancelled their entire order before even recieving a single vehicle.
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I mean last I checked the US was to get a different model than the one in the game. if I recall they were to receive the longe barrled 6-pr one. Tho I need to double-check my facts on that one. I just checked to see if I could find anything and I couldn’t so there is a good chance I’m wrong.
Tho the problem now is a lot of people think Canada called it M4A5 and that it is a Sherman.
They were to receive Ram Mk. II “A”'s but the vehicle in game is the Ram Mk. II “B”. At least the first few tanks would of been the “A” model but if they actually received their order it would be mix of the models.
There isn’t much of a difference so it in theory is the “B” being in there is fine however they never received or tested the “B” model
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I think that an independent Canadian tech tree in-game will not be viable, there’s already less people playing Italy, China and Israel because most vehicles are too similar to existing trees. However, there are some Canadian vehicles I would be happy to see in-game, either in US, British or German tree (depending of the comunality of each vehicle with the others).
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Ram II sub-model A
Ram II sub-model B
Thatz what is the difference between these 2 as the description is the same?
Wouldn’t the biggest difference be the long-barled 6-pounder? As this has the same description as as D model or is this to be the one without a machine-gun turret? doesn’t look like it tho…
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I probably accidentally wrote the incorrect description. I’ll try to correct it tomorrow if I can remember.
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I’ve made some changes to explain it a bit better.
Within each sub-model many modifications were done on the tank sometimes it would be a single vehicle that would be a one off however other times it would start half way through that sub-models production and each tank made after would include that modification.
It gets difficult to list but this small description is just a general description of the beginning of the production for that specific sub-model
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It would be funny if they had a premium/event mig 21 based of that joke
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Though the tech-tree is very solid, I still think that it would be a better idea to make Canadian tech-tree as the UK’s sub TT especially it comes to the top-tier.
While someone may say that Leopard 2s should be given to German, I wanna say that look at the German TT plz. You can see at least six Leopard 2s.
And Leopard 2s are quite powerful MBT, Swedish and even Italian as long as Hungarian got or will get their own Leopard 2s. However, at the same time British are struggling with those Challengers since they are not so powerful to fight against T series, Leopard 2s and M1s.
Also, if someone argue that UK shouldn’t get so many kinds of tanks. I wanna argue that Russian got T-72 series, T-80 series, T-64 series and new T-90 series while US can get M1128（Though not a tank）and M8 AGS（Though not MBT）even they have so many M1s.
Meanwhile, don’t forget that Gaijin gave UK TT an Indian T-90, which means UK TT is “allowed” to have MBTs instead of Challengers.
All in all, why not give those two Canadian Leopard 2s to UK TT even if it may not in free TT.
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Could go after the vickers line as that line has no more additions
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+1,
As Vickers line are all high-mobility tanks while Challengers are slow MBT lol.
I really agree with your idea so that Brits can get two top-tier lines and new kind of MBT instead of more Challengers.
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Unfortunately the UK already has a sub tree and Gaijin has effectively denied and Canadian and Australian sub-tree.
Gaijin has it set in stone 5 lines are a full tree. So a tech tree is at most a the main nation (main tree) and a sub nation (sub tree).
So with the South Africa sub-tree the UK can’t get any more. And they have said that wouldn’t move SA.
So what about ADATS？The top SPAA of UK TT is based on M113 chassis which is definitely an American vehicle and its missiles are full of America technology. Nothing on ADATS is related with UK except its nationality.
I don’t expect a full Canadian sub TT for UK TT but just two Leopard 2s, it’s not a excessive suggestion I believe.
My Guy the leo are better in every way
That’s a fact
We only have one top tier tank line why can’t the other be Canadian
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And? What does it have to do with UK?
And the Ram II should be in the UK as they used the thing.
And technical speaking the ADATS turret(the system itself) is Swiss.
Also there is a Canadian plane in the Chinese tree. (That is based off of a British design)
Why that’s not a sub-tree but to one off tanks that dose nothing but further the problematic treatment of Canada in War Thunder
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