The world where i kill them daily with HESH to the turret roof, thank you very much
HESH is a completely irrelevant round, why is this being discussed
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Abrams, Arietes, Type 10/90s, Leclercs, Merkava, Challies suck and are completely nerfed-to-the-ground, I don’t call these competitive vehicles
Can agree with this. I liked their guides for strela, and laser/tv guided missiles. Where did this idea go, Gaijin?
Devs should make instructions for facing common threats for each tier for both ground and air players. Weather and its effects on visibility and weapon usability. And many other aspects of game which Gaijin flexes with.
aren’t abrams and leopard literally meta in tournaments because they’re the better tank?
You genuinly might be stupid, rage baiting, having a skill issue or all 3. Abrams are some if not the best all around MBT in the game, Russian tanks suck. Slow reverse, trash mobility, no depression, mediocre pen, Cramped crew, very slow elevation speed
0% ragebait, everything else yes
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I cannot grasp how the literal tournament metas are worse than the literal trash of T series tanks according to him
As a reminder of why Russian bias exists (non-exhaustive list) :
- BMPT belts don’t instantly disappear when destroyed (while NATO IFVs loose all their ammunition if their belts are destroyed)
- When russian vehicles repair => they have priority of repair on the cannon and breech (while NATO is the tracks and engine)
- Russian autoloaders can still shoot even when destroyed (while NATO autoloaders can’t do that)
- Mi cannons are incredibly accurate (like, really), more than they actually are IRL. Way more than AH or Tiger cannons.
- Spikes/MMPs are broken (gotta love hitting commander MG 2 times in a row, a cannon then 6 ERAs eating the ATGM) ;
- Bradley TOW-2B missiles are broken (ridiculous damage model) ;
- Tandem ATGMs sometimes get eaten by ERAs instead of getting through (the whole point of tandem ATGMs) ;
- Russian IFVs can launch their ATGMs on the move, while NATO IFVs cannot, for some reason. Also, NATO IFVs need to deploy the ATGM launchers, which takes a very long time ;
- NATO MBT armors being paper compared to reality and russian MBTs ingame ;
- NATO MBTs getting nerfed to the ground (turret basket and electronics everywhere now, except the Arietes I think. We’re still waiting for t-series basket, maybe in 8 years we don’t know) ;
- NATO MBTs not getting their best DART (Leos, Leclercs, …)
- T-series model are broken (ERAs/side armors in general and autoloaders eat DARTs ( Russian Bias in 2026? - #1603 by SnuggyNyx , unbelievable), ERAs eat ATGMs, the whole model eat bombs ( Stalinium armor? - #684 by TROOPER7 : what is THIS seriously ??!)
- LMURs top down approach are correctly modeled, as well as their damage model => AH-64E AGMs are completely BROKEN compared to these, you usually need 2-4 missiles to destroy MBTs/SPAAs/BMPTs
- BMPTs are broken, no need to develop here
- Pantsir-S1 best 12.0 SACLOS SPAA in the game (12 ready-to-fire missiles, multi targeting system). Let’s not even talk about 12.7 Pantsir, this will end top tier experience pure and simple ;
- Tiger helicopters still at 12.7, why ? 8/12 FnF missiles VS 16 for other helis, 7-8 km max range VS 16/25 km max range for other helis, no IRCM, climb slower than other helis, HAC and UHT don’t even have a cannon ;
- 75% of small maps, advantaging russian MBTs because they rush you in corners
- To shoot at russian MBTs, gotta go pixelhunting. Urban debris on the ground ? Good luck shooting at LFP. The MBT does zigzags ? Good luck shooting at LFP. The MBT has bushes all over UFP ? Good luck shooting at driver’s port/breach (especially when you have the blur motion on, and that those bushes will “melt” with the tank’s armor in a blurry weird way). You shoot at russian MBTs from far away ? Good luck, gotta go pixel hunting. NATO MBTs in comparaison ? You point, click and shoot. Simple, easy.
- Russian MBTs don’t need to have the best pen, because NATO MBT armors are paper. They have basically the same speed going forward. They now have basically the same reload speed as well (6.4sec reload = +/- the 6sec reload some NATO MBTs have). They of course have so much armor that even top NATO darts can’t frontaly pen.
- IFVs : russians have IFVs with much higher fire rate, laser accuracy, 2 cannons (1 main for HE/ATGMs, 1 autocannon), much faster than some wheeled NATO IFVs. NATO IFVs in comparaison ? Bushmaster, completely garbage.
- Yak-9k, completely broken.
- Been playing some 7.3 US recently. Noticed something. Russian heavy/medium tanks, and some of their tank destroyer, are almost unpenable, IF YOU PLAY A NATO HEAVY TANK AGAINST THEM. IS-3 ? Gotta go pixel hunting in that turret neck. IS-4M ? Same, but the spot is even tinier (gotta love bouncing on its side with a 224mm pen shell too). T-10M ? Don’t even think you can pen that. Object 268 ? Gotta go pixel hunting in that driver’s port. T-54/55 ? Gotta go pixel hunting in that tiny cupola, berely visible). Hell, even some of their T-34/44 will bounce if their turret is angled weirdly. NATO heavy/medium tanks in comparaison ? Multiple weakspots, side will not bounce against a shell (even against russian SPAAs lmao), if you turn your turret a little bit, you’re done.
- T-series MBTs have IRST + HE + Proxy HE + ATGM shells. Some NATO MBTs don’t even have any of that (EDIT : they just gave Leclercs and I think Arietes HE shells, that’s a start).
- Sweedish IFVs still don’t have IRST
So many more things could be said. NATO SPAAs don’t have cannons. Russia has literally 10 MBTS/IFVs they can use at top tier, worning out NATO forces because they don’t have as many => which leads to constant losses against Russia at top tier GRB. Russia has that 1 ship that doesn’t even exist. KH 38s don’t exist too as well. In the main trailer, it’s the russian MBT that wins against the Abrams. When the AH-64 launches missiles against the russian MBT, we can’t see if the tank exploded or not, because they cut the scene. A lot, lot more.
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Surely tournaments players don’t know what they’re talking about
well tournaments arent random battles tho.
Thats genuinely lie. All techs ingame have same repair priority, and MBTs of USSR also repair the tracks and engine faster than breech.
also a genuine lie. Lol.
@TheKnightOfZero
Somebody needs a little time to touch grass instead of dragging every thread into a Russian Bias discussion.
they don’t have proxy, ATGM shells are pointless to use.
Trailers are pure advertisement, nothing to do with actual gameplay.
Aren’t there brochures for purchasing the KH-38?
Bushes don’t affect just Russian tanks, if you’re gimping yourself with motion blue that’s on you, not the game’s bias.
leopard 2A7s don’t exist?
small maps are better for tanks with fast reload and good mobility, Russian tanks have neither.
PUMA 2.0, read up on how that went.
All tanks do that, I had clips saved of my clickbait tanking KH-38s or my leopard 2PSO tanking a walleye.
They can shoot, but not reload. Same as any other autoloader.
BMPT belts are stupid, I don’t agree with the 2-split but here we are.
I doubt that.
70km/h max speed while most wheeled NATO IFVs I can think of go up to 90 or 100+km/h
It’s an annoying plane to fight, but only has what? 50mm pen and the flight performance of the plane itself is mediocre.
Want to know the best thing about NATO? 35mm SPAA.
This is an example of why limiting premium purchases to minimum of level 10 wouldn’t change a thing
Hey, so hear me out, possibly because russia focuses entirely on SH-ORAD and NATO doesnt?
The reason being NATO ATGM carrying vehicles mostly just dont support that irl and meant to be launched while stationary to reduce the chance of a miss
Been hit in my autoloader quite a ton with a round loaded in the Type 90 and could still shoot the loaded shell. Just plain wrong
Also wrong, i play the BMPT regularly and when my belts are shot i lose most if not all my ammo for the specific cannon (tho both should disappear ill agree on this)
Doesnt exclusively apply to russian tanks, see Chally 2s or PUMA for example
They are incredibly good yes, but 1 russian tank being this good doesnt equate to all of them being that good
Idk why you are even mentioning this when russia literally only gets 8 while yes they are good it just makes no sense
Pixel hunting what exactly? The huge drivers port? The Breech that can reliably disable the tank entirely? The turret roof that you can shoot and kill all T series with?
NATO IFV focused on Bushmasters. The Laser accuracy on russian/chinese autocannons is absurd that i agree too.
Yak9K yes obviously
There is like 1 or 2 T-Series that have Proxy HE at toptier, and you arent really gonna hit stuff except helicopters with that slow traverse and elevation
I cant answer to all the points or id sit here until christmas to prove you wrong further
Autoloaders dont shoot, they reload. Nato autoloaders dont reload when ammo gets hit and blowout panels activate. Because ammo is gone. Russian autoloader wont load ammo in such case either because if ammo is hit, not only there wont be ammo left but also turret will be gone.
Also, KH-38ML are very real, its the MT that is made up from brochures, tho afaik the IR seeker its supposed to have is real too (dont take my word for that, i read it somewhere once) but its just not yet seen in action nor besides mockups
Ah, I see.
This kind of thing isn’t an exception to Russia anyways
If the best players dont even want to touch T-Series because they are just horrible, then you can very much take everyones word for it that they are horrible