Head on shot without change is just under 60km.
Notching shots were around 35-40km. Anything further and both missiles are basically out of energy.
Theoretically the missile should go further and get there quicker because no energy is being wasted to make the missile pull up.
Does it matter in War Thunder? In a practical sense probably not as far as Air RB is concerned. However it is something that can/does make a difference in 1v1.
1 Like
The graph just proves that manually lofting the ER massively improves its performance.
This is pretty minimal as you’d lose a bit of speed pulling up to manually loft the missile as in no difference in performance in manually lofting vs automatic lofting.
That was with the AIM-120’s loft code apparently, could you do one for the manual loft? Mythic_Pi had showed that the loft code has some very important parameters for making the loft legitimately “effective”.
My anecdotal experience is that there is a difference but I have not physically tested it because there isn’t actually a good testing procedure. The difference probably amounts to at maximum a 2 second advantage in time to impact.
But also its not something that is going to rob your speed in something like the F-16C for the most part. If you are doing cranking maneuvers and launching missiles while cranking from one direction to the other…you should try to time your cranks so that your nose is pointed up as you cross the target. If DLZ was actually implemented on F-16C it would actually give you the optimal angle to launch the missile at in order to manually loft it.
1 Like
This is a bit impossible to graph and would require extensive real gameplay testing. Even actually testing in game, testing a manual loft vs automatic loft at the same loft angle and timing it precisely so that both launches are at the exact same altitude and speed is very difficult in order to rule out that the AMRAAM loft code provides an advantage over manually lofting at the same angle.
From anecdotal experiences manually lofting missiles, it substantially improves missile range and speed and it FEELS like its close enough to say that there’s minimal difference (between manual loft and automatic). But these are just empty words.
I genuinely don’t know if these shots would’ve hit without manually lofting though:
the R-77 is the strongest best missile ingame what are you talking about , a Nato main*
True it seems that while i’m using the SU-27SM there’s a problem with the R-77s just losing track or just not being able to keep going for a target that’s 5km on an alt of 5k.
in russia you loft missile
That’s what everyone should be doing even with ARHM