British Weapon Systems - Technical data and discussion

did you ever make that report?

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Yes

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got the link for it?

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No as its an internal report. Here are all the reports we have for Phimat;

[tornado_f3][tornado_adv][tornado_f3_late] Missing Phimat Chaff pod on wing pylons
[tornado_f3_late][tornado_f3][tornado_adv] Missing Phimat Chaff Pod
[harrier_gr7] Missing Phimat Chaff pod
[buccaneer_s2b] Missing Phimat Chaff Pod
[harrier_gr3] Missing Phimat Chaff Pod

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oh, right

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Fine.

Nothing to write home about, but the FLIR is a great tool. Not been able to play it the last 2 days whilst it’s been at 13.0 and CBA to evade the AMRAAM slingers in it.

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ah, had a feeling that might be the case, how are the brimstones in sim?

Not unlocked them yet. But probably won’t use them often. Not a.lot of reason to do so. ePaveways and PGMs are just more effective

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Idk if you want a low tier HESH slinger, HESH is still in a state of almost always a waste of time. And probably show not much sign of changing because with the new update ammunition stat cards have a new item added.
“Armor penetration by high-energy action”
This means how much penetration you have with raw HE power. It does highlight how useless HESH is of course because these numbers are not indicative of how useless your rounds are as HE weapons at all. To illustrate:

The Ammunition details between 155mm M1 and 165mm L33A1. Note the nearly double amount of HE included in L33A1 and that L33A1 does allegedly have a greater amount of penetration “by high energy action”

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The issue: This penetration does not kick in unless you’re really really up against the plate, whereas any other HE type can overpressure via HE from a serious distance.

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155mm M1 overpressure killing via HE hitting the roof at a serious distance:

165mm L33A1 (with greater penetration in HE terms and nearly double the HE quantity) doing no damage at the same spot:

In fact look how far down you have to go for HESH to do any kind of HE damage:



You have to be essentially touching the roof to do any kind of HE damage.

And in spite of this information, rounds like HEAT and APHE don’t seem to have the same issue, they will overpressure via HEAT at fairly impressive distances considering their purpose and HE quantity.

Examples here are 122mm HEAT-FS and 125mm HEAT-FS.
Now these aren’t quite the same distances as with 155mm M1 but considering these are HEAT type rounds with less than 3kg of TNTe it is a bit impressive.

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Or like here with KV-1 SAP and 120mm L31, the latter of which has much more HE and “energy penetration” but clearly cannot HE kill at the same range.

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Does the fact that the launcher is stabilised not also quite clearly indicate it is intended to be able to fire on the move?

maybe im missing something, but gaijin seems to be avoiding the obvious conclusion that it can fire on the move

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And you’d be right.

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https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/4SntEY3mo94M

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Made a bug report for the Conqueror missing its lower front plate applique armour, hopefully gaijin consider it :)

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https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/qsZnz6HPouul

And another bug report for the FV4005s top speed, hopefully with enough sources this time.

If anyone has an actual photo of the TankFest Show Guide 2024 front page and would like to send it, that would be amazing as I could only find a digital copy :)

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Well, if they do accept it, at least you’ll survive long enough to be depressed by the gun.

Is it just me, or does the mantlet looks off?

So I have been using the M109 and G6 recently and saw Dollarplays video and have had the same issue with the HE-VT round he had, even to the point it wont knock out T92 tanks.

Timestamped to 4:55 where he shows it in the test room.

Seems to only effect the G6 rounds from my tests as with the M109, it doesnt matter if you use HE or HE-VT, both rounds will knock out the target penning the same. The only vehicle I have seen the issue with is the G6 Rhino, where the HE-VT simply doesnt kill armoured vehicles and you still have to swap to the conventional HE rounds to take tanks out.

Just curious if anyone else noticed it/knows why this is the case? A bug perhaps that needs reporting?

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Bug report it having too few supports on the extra armour. :D

It is reported as a bug
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/qHoIDU4ThMo8

Ah didnt see the more recent couple, only those from years ago which I dont think ever got worked on.

Also laughed at 1 of those from 3 weeks ago where it got denied as an issue because “proxy round” so not a bug for… some reason? xD

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/6uC4kCznjLmb

I could do that, but they’re supposedly only mild steel so I doubt they’d really do anything lol