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in terms of gun, its a worse M163, but it gets a better tracking radar, and a search radar

would function as a radar guided Luchs or R3 T20 most likely

i don’t see it being better than Shilka at 8.0

Apparently its 20mms are like the Hispanos you see on the 4.3 TCM-20, so to me its definitely a 7.7,

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The zsu 37-2 is simply retarded and should not be any lower than a fucking shilka, especially when its so good at killing tanks as well (genuinly pisses me off whenever i have to face that shit). But 8.0 br is just where i think gaijin will put it due to the search radar not that i think it couldn’t be 7.7.

Hey everyone quick question, is there anything thats actually stopping the Harrier Gr.7 from equipping sidewinders on all eight pylons? The pylons look like they can mount them so is it wiring or what?

Wiring and / or avionics, there is no point hanging a missile on a pylon if the aircraft’s systems won’t talk to it.

It should be able to carry 6 sidewinders though.

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is there anything known about the TSR .2’s HUD?

I have some stuff on it in the TSR.2 suggestion thread:

There’s this diagram:

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Also there’s this 8 minute silent video of the HUD symbology being tested on a static rig: Rochester Avionics Archive

India didnt use ZSU-57-2 thank god

Hawk 200 and 209 have been given a versions of Sea Eagle with a fake IR/IIR seeker (instead of the ARH guidance version used on Tornado, Bucc, Hawk RDA etc.)

I guess to enforce the LOBL requirement on radarless planes (looks like they forgot they did actually give Hawk 209 its radar in this update) while maintaining fire-and-forget capability, and not having the missile autonomously seeking targets with its own active radar.

ARH version


Sounds a lot like the workaround that was considered an absolute no-go for making Brimstone fire-and-forget with an IR seeker in place of its MMW radar seeker.
But is this just for acquisition, or does the missile actively use IR instead of radar as a seeker now?

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does this mean i can use it on tanks

Its apparently in the same realm as the KH-38MT

Exists on paper, but never produced or manufactured that we know of.

It’s not a workaround, its another proposed variant. While no proposal or variant of the brimstone ever existe that had an IR seeker.

Its referenced as the P4T Golden Eagle… but the source seems to be mixed in with someone on the secret project forums regarding their alternate universe designation for “what if” projects which another website may have copied

Very sketchy.

It’s because they use IR seeker on aircraft without SEA mode radar.

Not from my testing. You don’t get the IR seeker view for one, and the seeker itself doesn’t seem to actually track anything

Doing all this and still can’t give sea eagle to the 1 plane it was designed for.

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Yeah, it’s sketchy. P4T was a proposed cruise-missile version.
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https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP90T00155R000500030026-8.pdf
The paramaters for it seen across the various descriptions online - TERPROM, penetrating warhead, terminal IR seeker - lead to it being pretty much a non-stealthy version of Storm Shadow.
Storm Shadow is ultimately us stuffing the systems for P4T in to France’s Apache stand-off munitions dispenser.

As such, you’d expect the IR seeker on P4T to operate like on Storm Shadow, where it jettisons the nose cover in the terminal phase and seeks the pre-programmed target image.
But i think Gaijin have already taken liberties with that kind of terminal IR guidance on the IR versions of AASM/Hammer

Weird the radar is there for me, even though it has the IR sea eagles.
Which is fun cause the IR sea eagles don’t appear to get radar info

Red dot point of Aim, Red circle is the Sea Eagle

Yeah that’s what I meant. The 209 didn’t have a radar before this update, so that seems like why it was earmarked for the faux-IR version of Sea Eagle, when it could now use the same missile as the RDA that’s more in line with the read Sea Eagle.

The only variants I can absolutely verify with a source from 1983 are the P3T (Air Launched Sea Eagle) and P5T (Surface Launched Sea Eagle)
Source: Modern Airborne Missiles (Bill Gunston)

Martel

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AS.37 Martel - real missile, radar-homing for SEAD
AJ.168 Martel - real missile, TV-guided
P3T Sea Eagle - real missile
P5T Sea Eagle - real missile, 2x Wagtail rocket boosters for helicopter-launch and cannister-launch from Fast Patrol Boats
P4T Cruise Eagle - real project, cruise missile (Cruise Eagle is my AU name)
P6T Golden Eagle - real project, imaging IR seeker and datalink guidance, cruise missile (P6T is my AU designation)
Ship Martel - real project, Martel with an active radar seeker and sea-skimming capability, boost rocket for cannister-launch
Underwater-to-Surface Guided Weapon (USGW) - real project, a submarine-launched anti-ship missile

Interestingly…
Here’s an Indian IL-38 with the Sea Eagle equipped.
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@Gunjob do you have the video for the ECRS mk0/2 where it shows the radar being able to update target information outside of it’s scan zone/while in it’s normal scan pattern

This is fake

The sea harrier never carried the sea eagle

-gaijin

Its not in the video but is listed here;

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Comes from here;
https://web.archive.org/web/20240723013810/https://www.eurofighter.com/multimedia/e-scan-graphic-still
But it didn’t archive well;

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