Don’t think it’s something that was ever done with our Jags. Apart from Tornado I’ve only seen BOZ on Canberra PR.9 and Nimrod MR.2
IIRC the French Jaguars that carried BOZ were using it to generate “chaff corridors” during strikes, until France developed Barax and Barracuda ECM for Jaguar in the 80s. Where in the UK we already had jamming pods by the time BOZ-107 was introduced to the RAF for Tornado alongside Sky Shadow (~1985 or there abouts).
So there wasn’t the same initial need for it on RAF Jaguar as there was for the French - pairing AN/ALQ-101 + Phimat had been sufficient from the late 1970s, and continued to be until Jaguar retired.
Yes exactly, it is testimonies of this use that made me discover this use on the French Jaguars, they used it with the CT-51 before the introduction of the more modern jammers
It may impact the UK F-4’s and Harrier’s, if I can find more info which should improve SRM Acquisition speeds, I’ll follow it with it’s counterpart for the increased Field of Regard while Slaved shortly.
Oh I completely agree, I’m not sure how you balance it, other than to make it a game convention that chaff smoke systems are effective against it because IRL they aren’t;
But even then the gameplay style for mmW Brimstone guidance is very difficult to counter from the ground, boarding on not possible other than hard kill APS.
i would actually play sim if they added this and maybe the prox fuze to the brim 2s when they eventually come. (me assuming the tornado could carry the 2s maybe?). would make deleting convoys so cathartic as i can actually play my tornado and maybe have some fun finally.
Yeah, this is what I was so excited for in the GR4 only to have the Brimstone resigned to a DOA weapon that is hardly worth even looking at let alone taking into SB.
And yeah, it would give the GR4 a real niche ability that would be a lot of fun, especailly if combined with SEAD gameplay any time soon.
How I see it for the GR4. If we get MMW, then Tornado GR4 probably should stick with MMW Brimstone 1s for the purposes of mitigating the BR increase
If not, then we should get SAL Brimstone 2s on it until such time we get MMW.
Im not sure about Brimstone 3s, and I know they never used Spear-3s, but Brimstone 2s were in service for 2 years before even being fired on the Typhoon, so I would assume they were used on the GR4
I dont think it can be used against Jets (though thats where SAL would come in handy) but I think I recall something somewhere about it being usable against Helis ,which does make sense.
knowing gaijin they wont allow it considering in game they have the radar cross section of a fly when they should have huge rcs due to the spinning blades.
i just know they wont make it that easy for us, killing helis is somehow just as dangerous if not more than taking on spaa at the moment as ir is usless against them and you canbarely get a radar lock on them. Best bet is guns but then they hear you coming despite going mach… they ought to sort out sound in air as hearing super sonic missiles tailing your ass alerting you to missiles that should hit you isnt fun.
Alright, hear me out. Anyone know of the mosquito could dump fuel? If so we could finally get a decent fuel load on our HEFTY fighters and finally not be so much of a bus, especially the naval variant. best i could find is some heavy fighters had this so i came here to see if anyone else knew anything about it?
Or maybe any other heavy fighters with stupid fuel loads that hinder it.
The question is, what will the “minimum” we can dump down to. Whether they do aircraft specific minimums (like on the Harriers you can only dump the wing tanks, so that leaves about 2800lb of fuel in the centre line tank) or just lock it the minimum fuel selection
