BOZ pods to my knowledge require a control panel installation (see tornado), certainly have nothing primary to confirm any BOZ usage on British Jaaaaaags.
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Okay, thanks for the info, for the integration on the French version there are no official documents that talk about it but there are photos and many testimonies that attest to the use of BOZ, I don’t know if it will be enough to add it.
EDIT : I have an official source who talks about the use of the BOZ in the case of SEAD missions without naming any particular aircraft, but the only aircraft that was flying these missions at that time was the Jaguar.
Don’t think it’s something that was ever done with our Jags. Apart from Tornado I’ve only seen BOZ on Canberra PR.9 and Nimrod MR.2
IIRC the French Jaguars that carried BOZ were using it to generate “chaff corridors” during strikes, until France developed Barax and Barracuda ECM for Jaguar in the 80s. Where in the UK we already had jamming pods by the time BOZ-107 was introduced to the RAF for Tornado alongside Sky Shadow (~1985 or there abouts).
So there wasn’t the same initial need for it on RAF Jaguar as there was for the French - pairing AN/ALQ-101 + Phimat had been sufficient from the late 1970s, and continued to be until Jaguar retired.
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Yes exactly, it is testimonies of this use that made me discover this use on the French Jaguars, they used it with the CT-51 before the introduction of the more modern jammers
New report is live.
Implementing “Sidewinder Expanded Acquisition Mode” (SEAM)
It may impact the UK F-4’s and Harrier’s, if I can find more info which should improve SRM Acquisition speeds, I’ll follow it with it’s counterpart for the increased Field of Regard while Slaved shortly.
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@SwingfireOP I’ll reply here as Brimstone isn’t the topic of the KH-38MT thread.
But it can ID specific types of vehicle, we’ve already covered this extensively.
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Awesome! I didn’t known it could tell different tanks apart. That’s pretty freakin amazing.
Would still be OP as hell though. Deleting every t-72 in one pass would be a touch game breaking I think. 🤣
I will now return to the topic at hand.
Oh I completely agree, I’m not sure how you balance it, other than to make it a game convention that chaff smoke systems are effective against it because IRL they aren’t;
But even then the gameplay style for mmW Brimstone guidance is very difficult to counter from the ground, boarding on not possible other than hard kill APS.
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As long as we can delete SB Convoys with a Brimstone volley, I really dont care how they balance them for GRB :P
Even if that means restricting them to only be usable in air modes
i would actually play sim if they added this and maybe the prox fuze to the brim 2s when they eventually come. (me assuming the tornado could carry the 2s maybe?). would make deleting convoys so cathartic as i can actually play my tornado and maybe have some fun finally.
Yeah, this is what I was so excited for in the GR4 only to have the Brimstone resigned to a DOA weapon that is hardly worth even looking at let alone taking into SB.
And yeah, it would give the GR4 a real niche ability that would be a lot of fun, especailly if combined with SEAD gameplay any time soon.
How I see it for the GR4. If we get MMW, then Tornado GR4 probably should stick with MMW Brimstone 1s for the purposes of mitigating the BR increase
If not, then we should get SAL Brimstone 2s on it until such time we get MMW.
Im not sure about Brimstone 3s, and I know they never used Spear-3s, but Brimstone 2s were in service for 2 years before even being fired on the Typhoon, so I would assume they were used on the GR4
Can the MMV Radar of Brimstones target air vehicles?
Could you launch it at a fighter jet flying at high speed or at a helicopter?
I dont think it can be used against Jets (though thats where SAL would come in handy) but I think I recall something somewhere about it being usable against Helis ,which does make sense.
knowing gaijin they wont allow it considering in game they have the radar cross section of a fly when they should have huge rcs due to the spinning blades.
Probably, but MMW isn’t quite the same either.
i just know they wont make it that easy for us, killing helis is somehow just as dangerous if not more than taking on spaa at the moment as ir is usless against them and you canbarely get a radar lock on them. Best bet is guns but then they hear you coming despite going mach… they ought to sort out sound in air as hearing super sonic missiles tailing your ass alerting you to missiles that should hit you isnt fun.
Yeah, there is a lot of core gamepaly that just makes no sense
tracer?
use against helicopters was advertised as a FAHW capability, if that helps
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Incorrect Vickers Mk.3 Engine Sound:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/8rN0P2LJr9pe