If you don’t mind me asking (and if it’s relevant enough) what are the standards for each?
Basically, unfinished prototype is implemented with the performance it is expected to they have (e.g. Ho 229, Yak-141).
However, finished prototype is different, in which case the vehicle is implemented as it was built (e.g. ZA-35, M60-120S)
Then i guess ther is no chance to add ETS2400 to ZA-35? It was a possible option, and it existed(was mounted on a different thing but still did)
Thank you!
If you don’t mind a final question is it different for tech demos too? I think we have a few in ground but not very many to none at all for air
extra photo

also a photo of the G6 carrying the turret

Launchers on the G6 are mockup, just like the ones on ZA
Missile flew tho


Hasn’t M6A2E1 (quite finished prototype) got armor plate for hull that was only a proposal? Or Obj.292 that as far known never had an autoloader? Or Sidam 25 with mistral that exist only as photoshop and other questionable Italian cars? (But probably these less suitable for “finished prototypes” definition).
It does seem rather arbitrary, but I guess that’s the point.
When is a prototype “finished”? After design is complete? After one is built? After the first serial production is finished? After acceptance trials?
Stuff like the 2s38. It’s not in service, so is it still a prototype?
Source?
It’s only had multiple prototypes made which have only been shown off at military parades afaik. Similar to the T-14, if the 2S38 had been in mass production we would have surely seen it in a particular war, no doubt there are only 10 that just get repainted as they go back around red square…
Reasoning being, if they are supposedly more produce than the BMP-T why are they in service rather than a vital SPAA.
A large scale order hasn’t occurred. They’re still fully finished and haven’t been a prototype in well over half a decade.
Not having current mass-production asking clients [especially due to not enough funding] doesn’t mean it’s still a prototype.
Yeah makes sense, I suppose it depends what you class prototypes as, I would say it is a prototype since a design for it has not been accepted in regular service, its a similar case to Ajax, there are a lot of them, a lot of plans for them, a lot of trials for them but its not in active service so I would say a prototype, just a nearly finished one
So then they are pre-production pilot vehicles.
Hold up, isn’t that a crotale system?
Im bringing dead back to life.
ZA-HVM suggestion is made. Now im waiting
Did you find something about the turret/missiles?
The HVM would be fantastic.
Ofc.
Turret is the same as in ZA-35, but it has everything aroudn the guns removed, so it is much lighter.
Radar has increased range to 25km.
When it comes to missiles they existed and were fired, but were not fitted, as they were about to be done so but the program got cancelled. Same as Combined tracked. It was made but was not installed, later it made its way onto G6.
Tracked rapier,surprised its not old news.





