Britain Naval Tree - What’s left to be added for all BRs

Giving HMS Vanguard this early doesn’t make me feel good though I’m Royal Navy lover. It’s not what GB naval needs right now, and just make me worry one of finest ship in tree lose it’s full potential.

What GB naval needs right now is 25 seconds reload for 15’’ and 30 seconds reload for 16’', not HMS Vangaurd. Already GB has good capital ship line-up in 7.0 with HMS Hood, HMS Warspite and HMS Rodney, which will be tanky ships even if they were not 7.0. But what they lack is firepower, especially on damage per minute they can give. If this is not solved, HMS Vanguard would be no meaning even if it added. It’s just replacement of HMS Hood or HMS Warspite.

Addition of HMS Vanguard this early also makes me worry about non-existence of supercharge ingame. It’s what HMS Vanguard would really need as it would be the one of end-lineup when all potential battleships were added in every nation. Without supercharge, 475 mm penetration at 10 km is problematic against latest capital ship added to each nation.

It’s just not time of HMS Vanguard. British needed buff of existing 15’’ and 16’’ ship, not new ship that has to be end of tech tree. I would rather want USS North Carolina at US tech tree, as USA is currently one of most suffering nation at top BR.

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56kmh, shit load of radars, even bigger shit load of AA, vanguard looks pretty darn good actually.

I fully agree with everything you’ve said here. That’s what we really need and it’s kinda annoying that Gaijin haven’t moved in that direction

Vanguard managed to claw out 58.4kmh during sea trials but I’d much rather have her be a 30knot ship and at deep water load than a 32 knot ship and get a lower belt penetration

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Do we know how the paper g3 and n3 would hold up to a Yamato

N3 would be superior to Yamato except turret front armor, AA and speed
G3… will be little hard to fight against as it uses same AP with Rodney but will be decent if able to become close.

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Is my memory correct but during lions development post 42 were they planing on making faster fire rate turrets for the ship I remember hearing something along those lines a while back while watching one of drachinifel’s vids but it might have been one of the drydocks and I have no idea which one it was

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I’m afraid to ask where it will be superior to the battleship Yamato.

Similar gun power, both in penetration and after-pen damage(If considering SAP, much better)
better hull armor layout which doesn’t have cheek weakness of Yamato, and having straight forward bow bulkhead which is useful in angling.
And much better citadel layout, while Yamato has every shell room above waterline and one magazine near waterline, N3 has layout same as Rodney, which is extremely survivable.

Also, two torpedo tube.

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C-doubtful, very doubtful…

Just praying its allowed to have half of that.

I think several of our top tier BBs should have radar, they could have come in later refits with more AAA (not that they have that option for Vanguard) and Warspite and Renown have been denied HE-VT for their secondaries for “balancing reasons” (even though US BBs have them)

So we will have to wait and see

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i know for a fact that renown should have a radar but many ships were added before radars were in navel meaning that they dont have working ones and because there is one guy working on the whole of navel they have not and likely wont get them

plus they still need to give renown the he-vt rounds for the secondarys

Were they?

When were radars added to naval?

not sure but it might be a reason for them not having radars and others having them

and Warspite, but they double down saying that they wont add them with no good reason given

Developers don’t plan to add these shells to HMS Warspite. - source

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like i know that with a very high crew level the HE TF rounds can nearly work like VT rounds but some american BB’s have HE VT rounds

Yeah, 4x American BBs with heavier tertiary guns have them but Britain isnt allowed because “reasons” its wierd

clearly we are more talented than the American mains

Yeah, Britannia is not allowed to rule the waves