The entire front of the proposed turret is different to Gaijin’s, because they had to move the entire gun and cradle forward to accommodate it. Then as I said, this proposal was never intended for Panther II only regular Panther’s.
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I say just snap them out of existence. Ho-Ri too. Keeping them in-game is dumb. Refund the player idc just remove the garbage
turret was never completed so you nor I can say with any degree ono certainty how it would have been.
no way. bring em ALL back.
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Snap em out of existence like they should have been from the start. No more fake.
Your opinion isn’t the popular one.
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I know. But it’s better for the game. We don’t need fakes plaguing the game. We don’t need nations to benefit from vehicles that never existed while other vehicles and nations will never get theirs because of changed standards
Sure, but that means nothing when the conversation is about how fake Gaijin’s is.
That kind of “exclusivity” is poisonous to the whole game, man. If you’ve played the thing a whole bunch for years after grinding it yourself when it was regularly available, why do you care if other people get access to it too?
Note - I own all four of the German funny machines. KT105, Panther 2, Coelian, and Maus.
I am just simply hard-against any and all “fuck you. got mine” sort of attitudes regarding any and all pieces of “rare” content that are more than one year old.
Yup, I am in full support of remodeling all of the ahistorical vehicles to make them at least plausible. Just use the plans for fitting a long 88 in there and enlarge the turret itself if necessary.
Exactly - there is no harm except to the egos of certain folk protecting their grandfathered-in advantages.
As for one that is perhaps my biggest pet peeve currently, Bush 6-packs. We can destroy them now with relative ease, so why not simply allow people to purchase up to 6 of any kind of bush for 500 GE apiece? Then the people who paid for the original 6-packs simply got them on a special initial discount, but the grandfathered-in advantage is gone.
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agree to disagree, they should’ve played before it got removed, not my problem I don’t want it to come back because it makes me special.
Either / Or. This leaving removed TT vehicles in the game is the worst of both worlds, especially when Gaijin buffs them to be absolutely OP cancer YEARS after the fact like they did with the Coelian.
Although I am more in favor of leaving them in, especially ones that where almost finished production like the R2Y2.
The stuff like the R2Y2 V2/V3 and the 105 tiger that where either thought experiments or physically imposable should just be removed completely.
Panther 2 should be changed to it’s proper configuration (including legacy ones) and returned to the TT.
no more op than the countless zsu57s, it’s a side grade don’t kidd yourself
The M1 KVT was an M1A1 with the 120mm gun
Yes, but US players wanted the 120mm variant. Gaijin made up a 105mm variant to give the US tree a less capable vehicle.
I have no idea why the ZSU-57-2 is 7.0 while the Wiesel 1A4 is at 7.3
Apples to oranges, two completely different vehicles. Neither of them really an AA.
Dunno, Wiesel is not different to an early WW2 20mm autocannon vehicle. Those are one step over reserve tier. Similar speed, but usually more crew and much more survivable. Full 360 deg turret. Similar speed.
Instead Wiesel is 7.3 lol. Must be the thermal viewer or the 10mm more pen (<Irony).
Correct, and also speaking of the Wiesel, Rh202 APDS is severely underperforming in its penetration ability (as is also the “default” APCR like all APCR rounds in the whole game do).
The real DM63 APDS penetrated around 100-110mm point blank. With that the rattiest tank to ever be added to this game would actually be able to bite reliably.