Hello, recently when i fly a bomber and someone is attacking me my aircraft just explodes mid-air for absolutely zero reason at all. This is both in AB and RB and it is really annoying, this especially happens with the ME-264 even when my bombbay is closed. Is this normal? If yes, how do i prevent it? Thanks in advance!
Bombs can now be destroyed mid air or even on your aircraft since the update. If the enemy misses but hits your bombs then they’ll explode. I’m assuming enemy rounds are penetrating your aircraft and hitting your bombs and blowing them up so that’s why it keeps on happening. Can you do anything about it? Yes, don’t carry bombs.
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I knew this but is it now possible that they can explode in the bombbay? That would be weird and nerfs bombers even more.
This change is pretty stupid and weakens the bombers terribly
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Yes - I realized this firework/total explosion of bombers if you hit center mass some time ago - but not from the receiving end. It happens mostly with very fast zoom climbs from below or in 90 degree dives on them. MG 151s with air target or Type 99 model 2 with universal belt show similar results.
And those guys had their bomb bay doors closed - i watched the replays from their perspective as i was curious what it hit to create such spectacular explosions.
Preventing? Get rid of bombs as fast as you can and avoid large bombers, it is very rare to see one of them surviving an Air RB match, might be better in Air SB, idk…
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I just exploded in mid air without anyone near. No one was credited for the kill, feed said I crashed.
(Me410 with 500kg bombs)
50 cals almost always explode your bombs. Bombers are almost impossible to play these days.
But then someone should get credit for it.
I explode just thinking of playing overnerfed bombers in War Thunder.
they shot your bomb
I think this should not be possible as bombs have a very thick mantlet and their trigger is not active if still fixed on the plane - ridicoulos!
bombs dont have any armor or mantlets (except armor piercing bombs and that’s not very thick)
Makes like no sense. Most players use HE rounds which have no chance of ever reaching bombs inside a bomber or causing damage to the bomb itself.
Even 20 AP rounds are not very likely to cause severe damage to bombs and the explosive inside bombs is generally pretty stable.
So how bombs are exploding with WT dysfunctional damage system is a mystery to me.
There’s a report on German mine shells which describes them as being able to get shot without exploding, unlike the propellant charge of course.
lol no they aren’t stable source: USS forestal accidents, yes there were several involving ordnance
also high caliber He shells can cause the bombs to be overpressured and detonated that way source: the fact that some tanks fire explosive wire to detonate mines in minefields
This depends on the bomber type - a lot of bombers without access to the bomb bay for their bombardiers (like Lancaster) had to fly with wires connected to the fuselage - so if the bombs were dropped the wires removed safety pins which fully armed the bomb.
As this was not perfect especially allied bombers used to drop unused bombs at designated areas before landing for safety reasons. Those drops included dropping the wire construction with them to avoid detonation.
Imho you overestimate the thickness. Even as the fragmentation effect of the casing was part of their purpose:
A general-purpose bomb is an air-dropped bomb intended as a compromise between blast damage, penetration, and fragmentation in explosive effect.
General-purpose (GP) bombs use a thick-walled metal casing with explosive filler
…you have to consider that the thicker the wall the less fragmentation - as the explosive damage will be reduced if the wall is too thick.
The correct question would be: Is it possible to penetrate the casing?
If i see the data of an average bomb like the SC 1000 (details here) the casing was 0.4 inches thick. So depending on range and drop of penetration values it seems possible to penetrate the casing of a rather heavy bomb.
Whilst your point looks rather reasonable i am not sure if you have considered the effect of an AP round hitting a metal casing: Parts of the motion energy whilst penetrating will be transformed into heat - heat is able to ignite the explosive filler.
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well said
My Heli exploded today in Heli PVE in mid air. Kill feed reported a crash. I was nowhere near the ground or other objects. This does happen regularly.
Either the mechanic fails to credit the kill correctly or something else is wrong.
its possible on hueys at least to shoot your own rocket so that it blows you up
Well, we are talking here about secondary explosives not gasoline or propellant charge. They require a booster charge to explode.
The heat from the AP round going through the bomb is unlike to cause your general bomb filler to detonate.
I also remember that German note about the Mineshells now correctly. It said the Mineshell will not explode when hit unless the detonator is struck.
I would assume that phlegmatized PETN is more or around the same sensitive as TNT.
Still there might be a possibility that it would detonate a bomb. However it most likely would require like an ideal scenario.
While it WT it just happened way to often to make any sense how it is implemented.
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I don’t want to create an argument here, but you might heard what happens when you throw a hand grenade (without releasing the pin) into a bonfire…
Have in mind that one the secondary purposes of anti-material rifles is to detonate explosive devices like IEDs or VBIEDs from a safe distance if no IEDD unit is available - with your logic this won’t be possible…