Bomber damage models are overtuned

I see superficial damage with no compromises to control lines, its drag is heavily increased as it should be, I see nothing wrong here, the fuselage isnt responsible for lift

Ok then, lets pick a real b17 and fire tell an a10 to fire a burst to it. Bombers are not this strong, they never have been. Go watch the damage an a10 does to anything, b17s arent made out of pure tungsten with titanium, they should go down in 1 burst

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control lines should definitely be damaged from that tbh. idk tho

Already did bro https://youtu.be/jZeVCSi29-k Gau-8 is not that special, AP rounds simply punch 30mm sized holes into an airframe thats THIS big, and its HE rounds have less filler than the HE rounds that were slung at them during ww2
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you would be surprised how many times i had a dead fuselage and still be able to fly normally,regardless of the situations,a bomber being tanky like this will make it able to reach a base and destroy it before either crashing or people just swarming you

Nonono, you dont get me. Go, to a museum or grab an already flying one and get a real life a10 to shoot at it

YOU would be surprised of how many planes are nerfed to the ground,i dont see anyone of you saying anything about it?Maybe cause its bias towards yall

Have you watched the whole video? Quite a few missile fragmentations to the fuselage should damage the control cables controlling the control surfaces on the wings and tail. Not to mention a fuselage fire should degrade the structural durability of the aircraft while conducting turning manoeuvres as well.

It seems like when a module on a bomber is “destroyed” (or black), it acts as a shield that protects other components on the inside, especially from high explosive shells. This reminds me of when someone managed to tank 8 (or maybe more) AIM-120s to the face since it constantly hit a dead part of the plane, shielding the rest of it. I don’t know how this could be rectified though.

You’re right, I dont get you, cause by this logic an a-10 should be able to gun a ship. AP, no matter how much penetration, is still gonna punch a hole basically its diameter, and the b17 has wings large enough to park cars on and a bomb bar large enough to fit a tank in, so you’re basically trying to kill this thing with holes you can fit 3 fingers in

AS i said earlier,if you want pure realism,might as well enlist yourself
By your own logic,probably 99% of the vehicles in this game wont work as good as they do irl
OR in contrary,in game they will OVERPERFOM compared to the irl counterpart

Oh, maybe it’s just a damage model issue then.

thats a wt mechanic issue, not a bomber issue, lets fix the mechanic instead of punishing bombers

Let’s raise the example of modern airframes again.
Why the Russians think that 150 rounds of ammo is enough for a 30mm cannon (Gsh-30-1)?
BRO, BECAUSE THEY’RE ENOUGH. Less than a dozen of 30mm are already enough to kill any planes, including the bigger ones.
The reason why any modern military aircraft doesn’t have armor is because THEY WON’T WORK when you hit them with a missile. For example, the Su-25’s armor is designed to “withstand ONE 23mm shot”.
The An-225 should have never been destroyed IRL if it behaves like WT does.

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You dont get the difference between IRL and a game that IS NOT A SIMULATOR?

Already served

I could point inconaistencies all day like the many inconaitencies with the hunters or the many specific things with missiles and weapons.

Buffing bombers to this extenct wasnt needed, bombers were not this “machine that will literallly tank anything” most of that miaconception is thanks to hollywood, in reality most bombers literally got split in half by a singular gun run or just blew up minutes later bc the bullet hit a line that caused the whole engine to explode, and the wing to fall off. If you literally have to handpick specific cases where a bomber survived that much damage, it was a 1 in 100 type scenario, it wasnt happening all battles

I agree on this somewhat

I genuinely dont care,they are useless without this extreme buff,wanted or not

Even with the buff they are useless anyways, bombing bases doesnt lower tickets and you cannot bomb airfields anymore, all this is gonna do is drag the match bc 2 mfs just sit on space doing nothing

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1, russians think 150 rounds of 30mm is enough because, gunfights arent common, you have radar guidance, and you arent shooting ww2 heavy bombers designed to take cannon fire, modern planes are more fragile to this kind of damage

2, A-10s and Su-25s have both held up against missiles fine because HE missile fragmentation is less effective than say, a 23mm AP round, gaijin even mentions how fragments arent all that dangerous to main structural components

3, An-225 was in a hangar that got pummled by artillery, what the hell does that have to do with anything? Tail sections are coming off in war thunders dev server from a few 45mm rounds, you are completely blowing things out of preportion