You don’t have to use 108s as examples
they are tanking ZUNIs already.
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I don’t know. Perhaps. Gaijin adjusts BR based on winrates so I’ve heard. I don’t think bombers contribute anything to decide the win/loss of a match in the current game mode, hence perhaps no change is needed unless fighters keep feeding bombers. If that does happen, then bombers would end up like the zeros and keep go up in BR …
i understand bombers were too weak before, but this is wayy too strong, you have to be out of your mind if you think this damage model is fine, currently they can eat 100-500 30mm gau8 cannon rounds fired from an a10
my conclusion is that bombers should be toned down by a bit when it goes live
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Where is that?
I’d actually care if bombers had this thing called maneuverability.
Most of them are already slow and are large to freakishly huge targets.
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I don’t think bombers are unplayable even if they do have to face aim9b and other early IR missiles.They can just turn off engine and they pretty much can’t be locked.
My understanding was that they balanced mainly on SL/RP earnings converted into an ‘efficiency’ stat. If bombers take more hits, shoot down more fighters, survive long enough to bomb more targets and get a larger activity time bonus, they’ll earn more and thus get BR rises, win or lose.
Looks like most of the current issues on DEV are more of a result of 30mm ammo being to weak more than the bombers survivability being to high perhaps?
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I might actually open up a thread at some point to discuss just how meaningful/representive/objective polls are. For one, people thinking there is no issue are probably less vocal and hence less likely to participate in the voting.
Not commenting anything against the result of the poll, but just saying my thoughts.
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currently its tanking 6 pheonixs to the face, several hundered rounds of gau8 cannons (keep in mind gau8 cannons kill tanks with a 2-3 second burst), zuni rockets, anything and everything
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Unbelievable then. Are you saying, according to stats, bombers and fighters at the same BR have similar SL/RP earnings? Would absolutely shock me if this is true.
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That’s what Gaijin have told us in the past. Having read the other thread on this, doesn’t look like it would currently matter, bombers seem missile proof!
Don’t know how direct missile hits would work, but if it’s proxy fuse then I think it does make sense that bombers can tank shrapnels.
Edit: I just saw today a record of how a korean Boeing took a R60 hit and was fine.
The example on youtube was a B-17 tanking Phoenix missiles.
The R-60 has a 3 kg warhead, the Phoenix has a 60kg warhead.
The bomber survived 6 of them!
Given bombers are large to huge targets, are slow and have next to no maneuverability, I genuinely don’t see the issue.
so you have no issue with b17s tanking zunis, gau8 cannons, pheonixs? i thought u wanted realism
Ok, as a bomber enjoyer I’ll admit that is a bit much.
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This makes a lot of sense. However, my A-10 is also big and slow so I would like Gaijin to give it the same treatment at the very least.
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LOL
Warthunder is not a realistic game.
A-10 is also an attacker, not a bomber.
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