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Oh wow I didn’t see that. Hopefully Northrop Grumman is on this one.
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Very likely imo,
Its one of the reasons why chinese fox 3s go further on paper, theyre significantly bigger than amraams. Meteor also is a bit bigger but not as much as a pl20 even pl15 is quite a big bigger tho not by much
first time heard this name, do you mean PL-17 or so called PL-21?
meteor goes far because it doesn’t carry its oxidizer
in terms of size it’s 190kg, not really remarkable
It would be interesting to have a cardboard mockup in WT, not really sure what it would be doing though aside from sitting in the Hanger on April Fools.
What do you mean by cardboard mockup?
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what???
All we have is a name and an artist’s render
,We don’t even know if this thing is in the air yet, what it’s powered by, what the cockpit looks like, what any of the avionics look like, where the pylons are, what armement it will carry, etc.
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Oh yes we do, it’s in the air already. And it has been since September 2020.
Besides my post isn’t a suggestion, only a discussion.
I’m presuming you’re referring to a 2022 article in which a high ranking officer stated that a plane designated as part of NGAD “has flown”.
That doesn’t really mean much since that’s 3 years prior to the contract being awarded to Boeing, and in that time NGAD was placed on Hiatus and sent back to the drawing board, Source:
For all we know the “F-47” as it has been designated is not going to be any of the testbeds that may have existed in the early 2020’s, point is, there is no concrete info about the thing.
yes
its helpful at high speed
I’m reffering to many articles that presented the news. The man charged of overseeing the NGAD program said that the prototype flew. President Trump stated it had been flying since 2020.
The program is much more solid than you think, it certainly isn’t cardboard. the prototypes could have also come from Boeing, but since it has been said that many prototypes have been flown perhaps both Lockheed Martin and Boeing made one?
Well, you simply don’t know that, it could have been YF-47, or it could have been X-47. Either way those “prototypes” will share designs with the F-47 we will get.
Also NGAD was put on hold to re-evaluate the performances they wanted the aircraft to have.
You can find some info here: Boeing Wins Bid to Build Air Force’s Next-Generation Fighter - USNI News
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Darpa said there have been planes flying since 2019
what you need for speed is aerodynamics, engine and intake design, sure canards can help it stabilize but wont make it faster
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Rage bait is crazy
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“The X-planes” actually. The term “X-plane” could refer to a full-system demonstrator (similar to the X-32) or a partial-system testbed (like the X-31). According to Gen. David Allvin, this (or these) X-plane(s) are “flying hundreds of hours, testing cutting-edge concepts”. I lean toward it being multiple test aircraft , each validating specific technologies. However, a full prototype (possibly designated YF-47 or F-47 ) might conduct its maiden flight during President Trump’s term , potentially in 2027? 2028? Idk.
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There is no reason to assume it will take that long. The St. Louis (presumably built specifically for this program) production plant to will be completed within the next year. Even if they didn’t start the first airframe until the production line was entirely complete (which is unnecessary as they can build the prototypes at existing facilities) the idea that it would take more than an entire year for 1 airframe is nonsensical.
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