I do agree with you. Especially there’s quite an unfair (negative) difference with the premium bmpt-72 and the regular tech tree one having 5 crews and a few better specs.
I also experienced the ATGMs pretty much being extremely inconsistent, slow, and most often giving hits/criticals instead of killing the enemy. On top of that you can still face 12.7 uptiers where you will have to face enemies you can’t even think of killing.
This tank is only good at killing other light tanks, or if you’re lucky enough someone from the side. If you’re facing someone frontally, or from a long distance, you have almost 0 chance of killing him.
Very few strategies are bringing you success with this tank.
Top tier air can continue to have things added, while we are basically at the end of the line for many nations now besides their tech demonstrators.
I sent 3 of those T58’s to the gulag last night in my 279 within a 5 minute span.
On another note, how did the #3 placed T-80U-E1 get a naval kill lol. The German 2A7V also has 1.
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dude though its the same easy to kill a bmp2m and a bmpt XD
You dont blame the company who release it for money and blame the community?
took me one second to find this.
All the nerfs on the vehicle are in fact historical changes and not just things being made to weaken the tank on no grounds. In fact it could get a lot worse if they were willing to keep updating it to be more accurate to irl.
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Nope
Is it ragebait?🤔
Definitely not ragebait
Ragebaiting used to be believable
thats player issue
How about learn how to use it! It’s the hardest vehicle to kill by a long shot! Especially when playing hull down. Skill issue.
It literally has one of the most insane survivability’s I’ve ever seen. Countless 120mms into the side, on fire and burnt to a crisp 3 times, nothing. 120mm right into the gun, nothing. Round disappeared cause I hit a stowage box. It just spams back until you’re dead. Also no it can’t fight APFSDS, same gun doesn’t mean that at all.
Also wanting it to beat and be on par with top MBTs as an autocannon just proves the exact mindset of BMPT players. You simply can’t use this utter death machine, not our fault.
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Oooh i know he just needs to “Aim for the weakspots”
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I wanted to reply to this comment, but I just can’t be bothered to pick apart your arguments which are pretty weak to begin with.
Okay, so what? Why are you telling me this?
No, I just think the Western community is full of whiners who see nothing but “Russian bias.”
The only nuance is that the balance between these topics is completely different: there were far more complaints regarding the BMPT. Personally, I found only two threads containing specific grievances against the T-58.
So you just denied the fact that OP/undertiered premiums are the norms and we should be on Bob Ross mode?
And those who questioned it are whiner?
What a flawless logic.
Again, why would they make RU like that? Happy little accidents? You genuinely thought that simple?
Curious that coincidentally its the russia recieving most broken toys on average.
OG pantsir was best SPAA for two years.
Kh-38MTs.
Ka-50/52 with Vikhrs on release.
BVM on release.
R-27ERs on release.
BMPT
New pantsir.
Edit: Sovetskyj Soyuz
etc.
All that while IRL performance would suggest specs way below what warthunder claims to be accurate.
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Are you delusional? 12.0 is where is should be.
Low IQ 100%
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It’s almost as if :
- There’s more player at the Brs where BMPT can be found
- T58 sits in a tree that doesn’t get preferential treatment every tuesday (Pantsir, manpads, KH38, LMUR, absence of turret basket, Soyuz)
T58 is more of a one of OP vehicle you get from time to time in every tree (Turm III, Gripen at introduction, Rafale, T58). Notice how they are all scattered in Br and trees unlike russian additions ?
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