I believe its just because the game tracks firing time, and not the actual amount of rounds fired. 20 seconds of fire is 20 seconds of heat, regardless of shooting 100 rounds or 300
So tl;dr
No proof, just delusion and wishful thinking lol.
If they had entered service and mass production (the UBR11 that is), we’d be seeing it used, we aren’t, BMP-2s and 3s still use 3UBR6 and 8 (the latter in very low qualities hahaha).
Do you have somehing to support your explanation.
The fact there’s been no official reports for the adoption of the 3UBR11 for the AFRF at all from actual sources like with 3BM-60 or other munition back in the day? lol
Or maybe how there haven’t been any pics taken of the round ever aside from shows, and how it wasn’t even used to test the captured IFVs like the Marder or Bradley lol, they mostly use 3UBR6 and in rare cases UBR8 and some “oh there’s a plastic part” source (topwar btw) isn’t enough, tough.
So how do you explain bmp2m having apfsds ? As far as i know. Its a not a ghost shell like the kh38mt.
It was just given it “for balance” (when it was 9.3 and fighting 8.3s btw lol).
Otherwise there is no reason for it to have it, and why BMD-4s don’t have it, nor BMP-3s, Gaijin is aware BMP-2M shouldn’t have APFSDS (atm it isn’t even modelled after UBR11, but after a Belgian 30mm APFSDS).
yea so we should get rid of su30mkm kh38 too
I’m assuming that the modeling for the TT one is incomplete currently, the ERA and composites are not modeled, the cannon/ATGM sight is misaligned and the sight for the grenade launchers is sideways:
The tech tree version still looks like it’ll be weaker due to lots of flat faces. The premium version is more sloped and doesn’t have extra bits like the grenade launchers to catch shells.
There’s no issue with 3UBR11 being added to any vehicle, it all depends on the battle rating.
I mean the fact of the matter is that there hasn’t been any usage of 3ubr11, such shell was never seen on video, neither was it ever captured, 3ubr8 is extremely rare in the first place, and seen only on 2a72. AP-T has always been the primary AP shells for ussr and Russia, it’s one of the reasons why Bradley’s have on multiple occasions soaked up autocannon fire from the front.
ok then if you say it can only use ap 3UBR6. then lets lower it its br. 9.3
but think really hard, does it matter ? war thunder is not 100% realistic anymore, we can see it from the su30mkm kh38mte. its all about balance.
I’m fine with 3ubr8. Not 3ubr11.
maybe fine for this 10.3 tt one, but no reason to add the bmpt model 2017 without apfsds. Like, why cant they just add a 11.0+ russian ifv? This 10.3 line up getting giga bloated
premium one has a different more modern CITV (bmpt on tech tree is older with older CITV), about spall liner i dont really know, but the newer T90M based BMPT’s do have them, i dont know about the T90A based ones(current tech tree one), and the export bmpt-72 is pretty much more derived from the newer bmpt versions so its pretty acceptable that it does get spall liners
feel like if the bmpt-72 received 3ubr11 and 3uof23 it would be an amazing 11.0-11.7 afv, tho by gaijin sayings, they cant introduce a premium that has better weaponry than its closely related tank in the tech tree, so maybe when the newer versions of the bmpt get introduced then the premium version receives them better ammunition?
i dont think the premium will change, after the update.
i am sure they need to add the upgraded model of the current tt.
BMPT CANT fire both guns at same time. Take close look at any videos, where you can see barrels. Only one barrel fires. Shooting barrel wobbles because gas from muzzle brake on one side hits object (2nd barrel) while on other side it has no obstacle. And bvvd literally said that there is no such option, to fire both guns in BMPT fcs.
Also why we are getting Kazakhstan BMPT instead of Russian one in tt? It should have BMPT 72 turret. This is my main question.
yea thats the biggest problem. I was looking for something to replace bmp2m but this tt one that we wont suit. should’ve been the one with t90m hull and the bmpt-72 turret, with the capability to fire apfsds from atleast one barrel. No problem in it being 11.0+


