BMPT/72 Should not be 10.3

You think that steam forums are less lenient than the WT forum ? From my experience it’s quite the exact opposite

That’s the main problem with this vehicle: it’s a Br 10.3, with Br 10.3 guns, but with Br 12.3 armor, so Br 10.3 ammunition falls far short. In garage tests, shots between the tracks often do nothing, the bullets being stopped by the relikt, or if they do penetrate, the damage is stopped by the fuel tank and the spall line. Meanwhile, the BMPT has an incredible ability to break guns and tracks, leaving tanks defenseless.

10.3 guns … honnestly it’s 11.0 guns and 12.0 missiles

Was thinking the same, it can literally one shot 11.7/12.0 tanks with its ATGMs

You only have to look at the Soyuz for a great example.

A ship the Soviets could not have built, added to the game using armour values which are a Soviet wet dream along with guns which have an absurd fire rate etc.

Then you have the kh-38MT - a missile gaijin just invented the stats for and which never went past the mockup stage but here we are.

They’re full of double standards.

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honnestly that’s my main issue with modern tech. Stop adding it ! We don’t know how they perform and the game has switched from realistic tank combat to WoT bis autocannons hide and seek

They also have zero incentive to rock the boat. Lots of them have it as their sole income source, it’s not surprising they’re scared to upset gaijin and call out their hypocrisy.

The only time it came close was when spookston shit in them over the rdf/lt.

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Too bad you didn’t use your additional brain cell to read.

Valve does that i think they know more about it than people who make up stuff and block opinion they don’t like.

Sadly as much as most of everyone seems to know this thing is just disgusting and we’re all eagerly awaiting for a miracle br increase for Christmas I don’t put much faith in that happening and the even sadder thought is the holidays are about to start I’m bracing for a second wave of cancer and trying to find a nice br to ride it out in. So far 8.7 or 11.7 seems to be about the sweet spot……

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There’s not going to be a br increase for a while sadly.

The current state of it is intentional, and ironically things like this thread boost sales as people rush to buy the op thing.

Gaijin know it’s ridiculous and corrosive to keep it at the current br, but it makes them money so they don’t give a crap.

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honnestly, i have no hopes anymore for this game. I stick at low br where the game still works a bit and that’s quite it

Modern tech is fine, as long as the estimates etc are done with fairness across all vehicles and nations.

It’s not an issue of modern tech, it’s an issue of trying to make the financials look better after a bad year for player numbers.

Yes, well, in a way they would be higher BR weapons. What I mean is that there are several vehicles with similar BR weapons. As I said before, in my opinion, very modern IFVs should have a BR increase, improving or worsening the accuracy of their autocannons compared to how they are in reality, giving missiles better damage in general, and making enemy detection more important. Larger maps would also be interesting, so that these IFVs could maneuver and find areas to fight in.
I’ve always thought that the crew health upgrade should be removed and replaced with reaction time after your vehicle is penetrated, so that when you’re penetrated, the crews inside would experience several seconds of disorientation.

Perhaps.

But I dont think the issue is firepower though.

Its survivability.

Any IFV can be taken out by pretty much anything hitting anywhere, unless its got a remote turret, then you are forced to hit the body not the turret.

BMPT has top tier armour and a remote turret, it just cant be reliably killed by anything at its BR. If you go around the corner in something like an Ajax and the BMPT is coming the other way, its not a question of who can react first. Its a question of how quickly will the BMPT kill the Ajax. heck, you cant even reliably disable its turret like you can with the 2S38. If you could hit the turret and disable it in one shot, youd at least have a somewhat chance

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I know…… deep down I know 😭

Already did, 2 times. Not even mentioning naval.

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That’s why I said it was a Br 10.3 with Br12.3 armor.

Finally someone said it.
Don’t get me wrong the BMPT is strong af and should move up.

But when I see folks getting 4.0KDs with stuff like the T58 yet they can’t get positive in other tanks of the same BR it raises eyebrows.

It isn’t at all.

F14 when added completely destroyed air RB which was then dominated for until the Su30 release and gen 4.5 releases.

japan when the F2 was added broke ARB and had changes implemented across the board if I remember rightly.

m1 abrams when added completely destroyed how the BRs worked as well and how match making worked.

Uhm when they added the centurions ? Any old school player can tell you how badly britain broke the MM xD @Razielkaine Im sure can tell you more.

Somau SM has and still does completely dominate its respective BR.

Same as wehn the abrams was added and USSR had no counter part?
F14?
M829A2?

it’s swings and roundabouts mate, folks just get too focused on the “russian bias” cause they want something to blame.

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They genuinely did make youtube videos on them though? the game was no where near as popular as it is now so a lot of folks just got on with it

Take this out that list dude, the BVM is not Op lol it’s just fast.
having played USSR to top tier wanna know what makes it so strong? the amount of muppets who shoot the UFP and proceed to keep doing so.
I’ve satin the T80BVM with a dude in a 2a7 trying to pen the UFP rather than just aim. twice he shot me before my breach repaired xD