BMPT/72 Should not be 10.3

Sure there are tons of terrible takes about soviet top tier vehicles but after seeing the KH38MT, LMUR, LDIRCM threads we had past year you can not convince me that Ru mains are not the biggest copers on this forum.

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There are like , 1 RU main for every 10 Russian Biased believer lmao. Not just terrible take about RU vehicle, their other take are mostly shit as well.Not even talking about playing the game good or not.

No stats no nothing. They talk about it following their own personal/confirmation biased. Can count all the assumed to be β€œRu main” defending all the bs on one hand while the other who believe in Russian Biased is just way too much to count.

yeah no shit theres also 9 tech trees for every russian tech tree lol.
The russian bias discussions this year had literally nothing to do with skill, they were mostly about how far we have to stray from reality so the Ru tree can stay competetive. The BMPT being grossly undertiered is one thing but with the ammo belt changes were completey entering fantasy land once again

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T-80BVM was a total menace and people use to underplay its strengths, but a number of changes eventually reduced its effectiveness, either directly or indirectly (like when they added spall liners). Let alone just adding better tanks that eventually countered it (Much like the situation we had overall with the Scharnhorst. Was strong, and was for a while, but eventually lost its meta status)

2S38 is still under BRed, and should never have been 10.3, let alone for the past 2? years. With the decompression there is 0 excuse for it to not be 10.7/11.0.

But then if you add on things like Soyuz, KH-38MT, Premium Su-30, Su-33, Ka-52, LMURs, Pantsir. (heck, even the Mig-23 is overperforming quite a bit, and the devs chose that intentionally from what I understand) Its hard to ignore a pattern

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you can buy a whole 10.3-10.7 line up in the russian tech tree made out of premiums

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and most of them are best in-class too

That mean you assume people are β€œMain”. Which is false, you can play multiple nation, which a lot actually do. On both side there are player like that.

Maybe , maybe not. Who actually know , as of now we have one extremely undertier vehicle in the RU tech tree, throw in the 2S38 if you want to count 2. Beside that other Russian ground vehicle are generally balance. On par with other major nation in some factors but also worse in some other factors.

shot 2025.12.22 00.10.16
buy these and youre set for ground, dont need anything else

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Yep. Dont forget the TURMS too. People like to undersell that tank, but its a nightmare to deal with unless you have some decent shells

and dont forget the KA-50 and Su-25. Both solid CAS

add the su25K and you have a competitive 10.3 line up

People usually have one tree they play more than the others or have one they started with. Its no coincidence that anyone defending broken stuff usually has a vehicle of that tree or more in their top 3 most played.

What do you mean maybe, maybe not? The entire competetiveness of USSR top tier rn is based on ahistorical nerfs to competitors, selective implementation of mechanics or straight up fantasy stuff. The new under BRed cash cow is just icing on the cake

Remember the time when ka50 was dominating past top tier with the vikhir, or when su 25 recieved kh38. It was a mess. No other nation has such pattern, sure american t58, but its very uncommon to any nation get an early op vehicle (for later get nerfed) in compare with russia.

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Thankfully I missed the worst of the KA-50 dominance, but I remember it being a pain sitll for a while later.

And yeah. KH-38MT has always been a problem. Most insulting was saying that Brimstone 1s on the Tornado GR4 (max range 15km) would be unfair because it would outrange SPAA and there is no counterplay in the same update that they added the Su-34 :D

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Ka50 issue was like the equivalent of mi28nm now.

Spaa at that time had difficult to shoot down the ka50, bc the atgm has such speed, range and can guide mulltiple at time. Damn ka50 players even used the missiles as an APS to counter spaa missiles (which spaa can only guide 1 at a time)

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Yeah, I recall parts of that. Also they were stupidly hard to kill for a while.

This is just pure conspiracy. I mean yeah ? Newer stuff with better tech will make older stuff weaker/outdated in one way or another.

Prior to the introduction of the 2A7. Leopard 2A6/STRV were the top dog, behind them were the M1 and the T80BVM and newer stuff get added they seem some what worse in comparision. But they are still extremely good tank , you can still do good in those tank if you know what you doing.

The only excuse is people still buy it while at the same time crying about it lol ? If people actually want it to go up. They need to vote with their wallet. Not 10 thread about russian biased LMAO.

The thing is with Naval that it is extremely unpopular mode. I agree with Gaijin that Soyuz should be added considering their loose requirement for a ship to be added.

But then again the mode still didn’t take off with playerbase for Naval still at as low as ever they don’t have the incentive to actually fix anything. As of now is the server , Soyuz is not even at the top of the list and they can’t even be bothered.

Which like , fine not OP ???

You do know that they got their radar and FM nerfed long time ago right ? Not saying that it is not strong but it is def not a menace like it used to.

One is a heli that isn’t even that good cause no FNF. Pantsir is a case of pure incompetent and money on their part. I will say the rest is applied the same cause of Revenue going in on their side.

Yeah in those times there were no internal components, so as long you did not killed the pilot, the heli could still shoot, even fly properly without tail

Oh yeah how we convince the russian playerbase to give up their op vehicle?? Lmao they dont care bc they are farming us

Soyuz has destroyed 7.7+.

period.

It should never have been added.

They are under BRed. Su-30Mk2 should be 13.7 not 13.3 and the Su-33 is stupid being 13.0.

They were massively overperforming for 3 years, and then they were nerfed to IRL levels, were underperforming too much for Gaijins liking so they un-nerfed them partially. They should be way worse than they are now. But even then, the MLD outperforms several 12.0 aircraft (F4J(UK) and F-104S ASA) and yet gets to enjoy 11.7 BR, 11.3 in ASB.

Ka-50 dominated for years.

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No , this is completely false. You actually have to have something to back this up , cause from the first day I been on here majority of people who argue about Russian vehicle are fine (Which some of the take can be wrong , we all been there) play multiple nation same goes for the one who believe in Russian biased as well.

Have you considered because of the player skill ? As we all know the skill are not distribute equal along all nation. The more major player counted the worse it get.

The new BMPT being as low as it is cause they know it will sell and would you look at that. Premium BMPT sold like hot cake and with sale season going on. People will keep buying the 2S38 as well. Why would they rush to nerf or raise the br of the BMPT when they know people who calling for it to be nerfed just to buy the pack at full price anyway ?