Uhm and which ones are better in that regard? NATO hulls made out of cardboard? Japanese tanks that can be lol penned in the cheek? Arietes that explode when looked at aggressively? You can make an argument for survivability sure but not for weakspot size and armor
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Better as in better protected? Yeah I’ll give it to the T-series (although not protected enough to make them problematic (at least when it comes to the MBTs))
Better as in better overall/all aspects considered in game? NATO style MBTs all the way.
Yes better as in better protected, because the entire point of the discussion was that saying „its protection is not that great, it’s the same weakspots as any t series tank“ is a qeustionable argument when the t series are the best protected tanks with the smallest weakspots.
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Different vehicles sucks at different thing, NATO’s can reverse to avoid getting shot, T-series could barely lol
Gun handling + hull traverse not being anemic lets me shoot back when my horizontal (+track sometimes) is out. Helped a lot when using the M1.
Hi im the goalpost could you stop moving me please
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What’s the solution here? If its too good for 10.3 and lets face its its not an if. Why are people saying to give it a raise and APFSDS or whatever round, making it 11.3 will make it somewhat balanced with the tanks it would face but giving it the new round would make it even better and thus make it powerful for 11.3 and OP for any 10.3
Its got top tier protection so i don’t really see a point in giving it better rounds for its autocannon unless they make the tank top tier which they won’t do because people have paid for the privilege to be OP
And why would gaijin ever think it would be good idea to place it at 10.3 in the first place?
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Same reason the TURM III is where it is, or the T58, or the PUMA was, or the WMA301 was, or the EBR 1954 (though not a shop vehicle or tech tree) was, the VIDAR was etc.
My guy, that things revenue probably ecplipsed the GDP of some small island nations already
Eh idk protection is one thing but 11.0 is firmly in FnF top attack (if it worked) missile territory, having only APDS and a beam riding AGM would be quite weak
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Lol. But PUMA never get KD 9.0 xD
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Doesn’t change the fact it was completely broken, you couldn’t kill it and it could just breech you/take your barrel out and pen the sides of everything there easily at range. Again, calling one out but defending the others doesn’t make your arguments look good. Nor does screaming bias at everything that happens.
The same people which say the T80UD doesn’t have 11.3 armour at 10.3
The Bmpt is actually more armoured as well as its layout is different, and has more armour
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Lol x2. Bro, who defend, and what ? I see only you, defending BMPT xD And all the time, you talk about “arguments” and give us a s**t as it. Bruh, everyone know that “game physics” is not from books, it is from some Vladimir’s speeches, but PUMA never be so much overpowered, like BMPT now is. T58 ? EBR ? Bro, please …
I don’t care where the BMPT stays, already said this in the poll and in the thread lol. Its an anticipated vehicle on my personal wishlist. I haven’t had much trouble killing them with my Type 90 although I do see 9.3 struggle. I don’t think you’ll see me say I want it staying at 10.3 even if you immediately resort to insulting me like I’m a “russian main”. Leave me out of your nation main games yikes.
The most obvious and easiest option is to just simply move it to either 10.7 or 11.0 in it’s current form, a second option is to give it APFSDS and move it to either 11.3 or 11.7.
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I’ve used it in my 10.7 lineup just fine even in uptiers so yeah makes sense.
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Yep.
Give it the apfsds and move it to 11.7 where it belongs.
It won’t happen and will stay at 10.3 for a long time because gaijin would rather make a bit more money than actually have a balanced game and the Russian 10.3 lineup is immune to br increases, but that’s what needs to happen.
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The premium one probably won’t move for sure, theres still time to make bank in the holidays after christmas gift money/bonuses are handed out.
This is a video and images of the video (if the file doesn’t work) of good proof that the vehicle either has buggy armour that needs to be fixed or that the spall liner and good armour combination makes it un-killable at this BR.
Spall liner + tracks yeah, for whatever reason spall liners are hilariously good in game and if you hit it through another module it does this often. Tracks can also completely absorb shells at angles.
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