When it was added ? yeah it had an air spawn or something to that effect and could effectively fly out and over the map before you’d even managed to get position, be on your six and end you.
EDIT: As @Beeschurger has said, the T2, not the F2 apologies.
I tend to get the Fs n Ts mixed up especially seeing as the F1 is right after the T2.
just ignore the likes of the T58 as well as the fact you’ve got the Jaguars on the AH64.
That i can agree with it is stupidely OP.
Much like when germany got the first heavy cruisers, or the fact that germany has dominated naval for a long time with the likes of the Scharnhorst.
Top tier ? its 10.3, top tiers not that badly done by it. If it were top tier or at least 11.3 most folks wouldn’t be as upset aboutit.
It’s not that great like man I beat em in a mirage 2000 without ARH missiles.
ARB is a cluster F*** rn so most flks end up headbutting missiles and not paying attention.
That being said it shouldn’t be the same BR as a mig29 SMT
I generally don’t see them that much anymore, due to the SPAA that were added.
as well as that the platform they’re on at least toes them into line a bit.
Not like you’ve got gripen levels of Flight performance firing them, But I get the sentiment.
Debatable?
The ones on teh AH64 also absolutely slam mate.
I mean, it “dominated” as no one had similar SPAA, not as if it was actually better, most nations just don’t have a similar system to it IRL.
As well as that, I’ve never particularly struggled with pantsir.
The new SPAA though make it downright impossible bar with the likes of the very best performing planes to get near the battlefield.
Depends when you look at it.
Germany for a long time before I began was the top dog.
Before them USA.
Then before that USSR.
It literally goes around in turns, look at ARB, it was absolutely dominated by the US for almost what 4 years?
From the F4e which at addition wasn’t OP but was banging good, to the F14 up until now when folks start to get gen 4.5s
mate, my first top tier was the CR2 , the only tank I never had issues with was the BVM, its got literally the same weak points as the T64A at 9.3
Turret ring, LFP, breach, as well as drivers port if your saucy enough.
The only nonsense with it was the ERA blocks eating shots, so shoot under them.
I had top tier in 2022 and can tell you the BVM was not really an issue.
Also most nations had and still have counters to it.
2a6 is a counter, 2a5, M1A2, CR2 is probably the worst to try and counter it, but it still does and can.
Thats the one, the T2 not the F2.
which BTW the F2 premium absolutely dominates its BR bracket as well xD
I mean it could lol pen literally everything it came across no matter the BR nor angle, dude I knows got videos of it one tapping panthers at a near 75 degree angle on the UFP xD
The mK3 TBH now is a bit power crept funnily enough but it’ll forever stay it’s BR due to the legacy stats.
i prefer their MBTs, the 8.0 (once 7.7) AMX30s are absolutely phenomenal, or they were anyways!
As well as that you got the likes of the surbaisse which has the same round and gun effectively as M103 but a 5 second reload.
French tanks slam, and have done for a long time, they just go under the radar.
like the MSC when it was added at 10.7 ripped the bracket apart.
I got it at 11.0 and spaded it’s a monster of an 11.0, bar the rounds pen being a bit on the low side.
It’s not really, you can notch it and make it miss a lot easier than the IRIS T.
Also you mentioned the pantsir dominating, some poor sodmade a comparisson a while ago, I’ll try dig it up for you, the pantisr at its peak had a KD of about 1.49 , the IRIS - T at it’s peak was sitting at I think just over 3.0 or just under it at a 2.89 (possibly 2.98).
The pantsir while could be annoying, was and is no where near as OP as the likes of IRIS t



