BMPT/72 BR Topic

They’re literally just making stuff up now to buff Russian vehicles. And folks will tell you there is no bias.

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Oh yes, i love guys who use that “sKiLl iSsUe” arguments :D
If you dont know what to say, say skill issue. It’s look like that.

Namer don’t have underperformed armor. That’s you skill issue when you try to hide it. Change my mind.

Yes, T-90M has more armor. On the paper. Paper will accept everything here, and that also is just a fact.
You dont understand the problem. It’s like “never ending story” when they add new “premium” or “top” tanks / planes. Currently BMPT armor is “bugged” (?) and this is not a “aiming issue” - if you shoot to the same place, 10 times, and all the time the result is different, that’s a aiming issue ? Why this aiming issue doesn’t occur on T-series tank ?

that’s no different than with any T-series tank

@StaszekJones
I’m here calling for BMPT to be moved up and your post just has nonsense in it.
So me taking responsibility for my flaws is something to be mocked?

Ironic that you’re the only one to have posts claiming “skill issue”.
Are you upset that we want BMPT brought up in BR?

Also no, the T-90M does not have more armor on paper. Statcards under-rate armor and that includes the T-90M. On paper the T-90M has equivalent armor or worse.

In practice, the T-90M has more armor due to a significantly stronger turret and more protected side ERA array.

haha, good one :D

xD

you still don’t understand the problem.

You start it with “aiming issue” what is the same.

Lol. One more time, do you understand what we talking about ?

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Half-assed soviet/russia additions ruined high/top tier ground not only once this year, but twice! Thanks LMURs and BMPTs!

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Lol @Smin1080p_WT?

Maybe check the bias of your mods on the bug site haha

Also

How is the latter an external belt? It’s directly connected to the carousel lmao

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I’ve been confused by their decision since dev server, but I still haven’t the slightest clue how stop being confused.
I’d comment on it if I wasn’t confused.

Maybe I need to see the inside of a BMPT’s turret?

Cause every bit of conventional knowledge I have is telling me that ammo should be part of the crew compartment.

I think it’s crazy this lineup.


Can fight against this lineup.

(yeah my Japan 9.3 is a bit thin) but still, BMPTs, T-80UDs and 2S38s realllllly shouldn’t be getting to face stuff like the Type 16 and Type 74. (in my opinion)

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It can and does face the amx-30 105. Its a bit silly.

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tbh I think everything (except maybe the TURMS-T) can go up a br step and do just fine.

I’ve used the BMP-2M and BMPT-72 a ton in top tier-
And the BMPT-72 I’ve exclusively in top tier since 10.3 Russia is so clogged up rn.

I’m trying to think of ways to justify a BR higher than 10.7, and the 9.7s might convince me, but that could just be the 12.0 decompression needing to impact many to most of the 10.3s - 11.3s now.

Cause I’m starting to think that BMPT is in a compression problem as well as being under-BR’d currently.

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I think it’ll do just fine at 12.0, maybe even 12.3 (then again I’ve only ever played it at top tier.)

if it DOES go to 12.3, then it’ll help make a lineup with the T-72B3M and Su-30MK2.

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Black Night is just a base CR2 with APS at 12.7 while the base CR2 sits at 11.7, so the APS does definitely affect BR.

T-80UM2 sits at the same BR as the base T-80U, but that is because it trades thermals (iirc) for the APS.

Merkava Mk.4M and VT-4A1 sit at 12.7 while the identical Mk.4B/LIC and VT-4 without APS sit at 12.3 (although both VT-4s are overtiered).

So yeah unless the tank getting APS is a tradeof it does affect it’s BR.


Yeah it doesn’t get thermals, NVD missing because its there by default.

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Alvis already wrote almost the exact same comment. We know but weve also established that the APS in fact is not the sole reason for the .6 BR increase and that access to Relict might matter

tbf even as a britbong ill say thats justified any map with a bit of range and for the first 4 shots the blacknight is just immune I really hope at some point in the future we see Ajax with its Iron Fist APS (its gonna be so funny having Iron Fist, and the PSO war kit making you basically the perfect counter to the BMPT assuming that thing gets sent to its deserved BR)

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Same way somehow Russian ammo is “wet storage” in the carousel. When it’s really not. And their fuel is supposedly “less likely to explode”. We’ve left the realm of reality for Russian toptier some time ago, and now it’s just whatever Gaijin feels like.

Same for other nations, but in reverse.

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The first four/five in that line up all should go up one step, some two steps. And the BMPT-75 straight up can go up more than a whole BR. Because going up one BR would put it at the same as the Namer and PUMA VJTF which are both straight up much worse in terms of armor, missile, and armament due to the double guns.

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I agree, except the TURMS-T.

It’s still a T-72A, Just a T-72A with Contact-1, Mango, and a good sight.
The rest can move up.

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