I just assumed that youre not actually insane enough to mean the 2A4, M1 or Mk1.
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2A4 and M1 definitely will struggle against BMPT (it’s a higher br for a reason), that does not mean the BMPT is entirely unkillable.
They very much do stand a chance of winning, 2A4 especially thanks to the better armour layout, but it requires braincells. Which most players struggle with
292 is not disgustingly strong? it’s got poor reload, and gun handling lol, has a very strong shell but that’s about it.
The BMPT at 10.7 as was pointed out to me.
- can and have the daily respawns that means it can potentially be 8 bmpts.
- on top of that you have both the TT variant and the premium so in effect there can be up to at max 16 BMPTs per 10.7 game in a full uptier.
T80UD was and is a strong 10,7 as well though.
They moved due to a reload buff, but they should of been 10.7 before said buff
From personal experience it’s incredibly fun and good. You can shoot anywhere and it handles depression better than other Russian tanks. Anyhow it’s my personal take on it. It might not be that strong for others. From the stats that we have it performs, on average, very well at 10.7.
Now that I checked, it’s the best performing tank for Russia BR per BR from 10.7 to 12.7.
And? We said that at most you can find 4 players having the BMPT. Whether that player respawns and has both vehicles that’s another topic. You still will always find a max of 4 people with that 11.7 lineup.
Totally agree.
Totally agree.
Ok i guess im gonna rescind my earlier statement then lol
Also please Gaijin move the Marder III to 12.7, look at how easy it is for it to kill a 2A7V. Thats way too big of a chance of winning to be a 2.3 vehicle.
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That’s because its
- 1 an event vehicle locked behind a huge paywall so those that do have it know how to use it.
- 2 lower in number than say a T80B Which is objectively better.
That’s my T80B VS my 292 not far off the same KD wise.
What do you mean and? that means that there can be enough spawns of BMPTs to completely dictate a 10.7 match with ease.
I used to use it at 10.7 always paired with the 80B so I never understood how people thought it wasn’t a 10.7 worthy tank.
Still performs well with hundreds of thousands of games. Goes to show that the tank is really good in the right hands. 236,671 games to be exact.
Maybe you’ve not understood my message. I know that a tank can be respawned and I understand your concern. I’m just saying that my statement of a max of 4 11.7 lineup players at 10.7 is correct. I’m not contradicting your take.
Also why are we still completely glossing over the fact that the BMPT is only a full uptier from 10.7 since 28th April?
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That’s a decompression issue, not a BMPT one.
Its still pointless to argue about whether 4 BMPT spawns are enough to influence 10.7 games when for the most part of the month we have data on they werent even 11.7
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I don’t see the point of discussing this. It’s now at 11.7, the focus should be on its current BR.
I think we’ve all made it quite clear that it was an issue prior to moving up. There’s no point in repeating the same thing over and over again since it has moved up.
Uhm you were the one insinuating that russian 10.7+ april winrate is not due to the BMPT, because its a full uptier when it only got to 11.7 at the very end of april. I dont want to discuss it, i just want to correct a wrong statement.
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How is it a wrong statement? You don’t have factual proof of what you’re saying and neither do I. You see, this is the point I tried to make across earlier on this thread. It’s all opinions, not facts.
I feel like a game of 10.7 in which there are a total 16 players per side is not (at least not entirely) won by 4 players that are downtiered on the Russian side. That’s my opinion and I’m afraid there’s no factual element that could prove it wrong. It’s just what I get from playing the BR, playing the 11.7 downtiers to 10.7 and so on.
That is the statement thats wrong. We only have april data so far and the BMPT plain and simply wasnt a full uptier until the 28th.
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In my opinion, Russian AAs and CAS provide a greater influence over the winrate at 10.7 than 4 players with a downtiered BMPT. Overall, USSR’s CAS and AAs are better compared to the counterparts that they constantly fight against.
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The 60% winrate is indeed still referring to April. I’m however talking about the current situation with 10.7 games that is seemingly still problematic but for other reasons.
If anything, the ones that pointed out the winrate being 60% (even after the 11.7 bump) are the ones not considering that the data does not show the BMPT’s newest BR. But I digress.
I was arguing that the bump to 11.3 was the main change that dropped the BMPT’s stats. Therefore that statement is not wrong.
And there’s no guarantee that the 4 downtiered players are Russian, or even playing the BMPT
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Idk either you swapped from the april stats i mentioned to some hypothetical may stats mid convo or you just forgot that the BMPT got moved up that late in april and dont want to admit that.
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Do I really have to ask you to reread everything again?
I’ve pointed out initially at stats considering the 11.3 bump in BR, as we do not yet have the 11.7 stats.
From that point onwards:
- you’ve pointed out the winrate
- I’ve agreed, but also mentioned how other Russian vehicles are just as problematic, and it’s not JUST the BMPT
- You proceeded on with your take
- I’ve moved on to the current situation, meaning 11.7 BR for the BMPT.
I’ve specifically not mentioned the winrate as we don’t yet have stats for May, at least from SS.
Therefore the statement isn’t wrong.
I really don’t see the point in trying so heavily to go against someone that is still, even considering some rather unpleasant messages from some here, dedicating the time to interact with the thread.