It’s totally going to be a huge waste of time because your approach would imply punishing players on the basis of tech tree population i e something he doesn’t even control which isn’t fair play.
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You should see the performance of the abrams and leo2a6 irl.
No it wouldnt. Taking playrates into account doesnt punish players depending on population. It just diminishes the role of player skill differences in balancing decisions.
If the BMPT was played only by a handful of people and performed above average than that might be due to an expert playerbase. Insane popularity should have the opposite effect
You mean one of the best two tanks in this world that beats their every opponent but only to be beaten by their newer models?
I agree.
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Results shows that its so different to what they said is capable. Goes for all tank.
Best tank in the world… best at what ? Lmao
Inb4 turms which is probably the most popular wt vehicle.
Skill differences aren’t measurable and the implication of better skill in small tree is baseless. I understand that it’s possible to have skill gaps but we don’t have a way to gauge it and take this into account in matchmaking. Before we’re able to do that telling 57 player in one tech tree that he has to go higher in br when compared to his twin in another tech tree because more people played his vehicle is complete bs.
You mean the results where both tanks saved their crew, allowed them to retreat while it was more than capable to engage with enemy units?
Yeah I agree, also you can add Chally-2 to that list.
Meanwhile Russian tanks either get blown up and made their entire crew new cosmonauts for upcoming space programs or got beaten up by M2 Bradley from close range.
Armor
Mobility
Firepower
FCS
Protection
Survivability
Target identification and engagement
Accuracy
Which something most Russian tanks lacks in nowadays, guess truth hurts doesnt it?
Dont confuse ingame Russian tanks with real life counterparts , they do overperforms in game but they currently suck in most areas in 21th century.
The only decent Russian Tank that is in active service is T-90M and even then that tank lacks crucial abilities such as reverse speed and ROF, at least its much better than cheap upgrade you can find on old T-80BV’s.
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It is and its performance is absolutely not great at all so whats your point exactly?
Its not, because its not about just being played more its about being played a lot more with a playerbase thats average or below average but still pulling off stats that are a good amount above average. Being played a lot doesnt automatically mean a vehicle is op but being played a lot while having very good statistics is a very consistent indication that something is too strong.
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Yes i like my tax dollar to go in hell because some engineering forgot to protect the weak engines from drone. Who now every tank is non combat in a single hit.
Crew survived ? Good thank god. Still 3 or more millions wasted.
Hmmm… did you watch the vid ?
Crew survived and there was 2 bradley against 1 t90m.
Pretty good fight
Tell that yourself, didnt say this is better then this but sure go ahead and start put word i didnt say.
Bla bla this better than this but at the end both have same loss results.
You do realize all tanks designed during 70’s-90’s which where drones weren’t even a thing remember?
Also if you get shot from back or getting attacked by drone then you did something very wrong.
You can replace the tank in a month with war time working while replacing crew takes more then years, that’s why military cares more its crew rather than their armored vehicles or jets.
Which is why I praised T-90M despite having major weakness compare to other modern MBT’s but still loosing a gunfight against lightly armored targets is quite funny.
By using that logic base MiG-29 and F-16C Block-50 are also basically the same considering both of them got shot down during real life engagements.
Thats not how it works tho, like it or not.
There the vehicle itself and then there the user.
2 ways to judge a tank or plane.
If you wanna go in paper then yes nato win for sure
But real combat, both results are bad.
No one is in war time working. And i mean even russian is not.
Thats considering that nato had far less mbt in stock then russian. 80s tech.
Retreat from a position will always expose your back.
Fpv drone are smart and always target mobilty.
February KDRs [meaningless stat on its own, but better than win rate]:
140,000 matches, 3.13 KDR: T-20.
189,842 matches, 2.45 KDR: KV-1E.
202,789 matches, 2.45 KDR: Ho-Ri Production.
127,229 matches, 2.27 KDR: Sherman III/IV.
489,624 matches, 2.17 KDR: Maus.
Greater than 100,000 matches: 1.74 - 1.87 KDR: Tigris, Chi Nu II, and Tiger II 105.
357,996 matches, 2.07 KDR: Tiger II SLA.
189,362 matches, 1.95 KDR: OF-40 MTCA.
459,919 matches, 1.94 KDR: Somua SM.
330,000 & 417,000, 1.91 KDR: T58 and SAV 20.
SAV 20, Maus, Tiger 1 and 2, OF-40 MTCA aren’t OP vehicles yet have high KDRs among thousands of players.
So far, it appears the BR increase of BMPT is doing its job when skilled players are “only” managing 1.51; Now, whether that is the case universally or not… dunno.
Besides bringing them to 12.7 and losing their teams matches, at 11.3 they seem to be doing okay. Not amazing, not bad.
So at this time, I have no opinion on the matter.
My entire post contains zero takes besides the talk about “aren’t OP”.
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That’s Russia’s problem.
Which is why NATO tanks has better reverse speed, they can easily get back into cover while facing their main armor to enemy units which something current Russian Tanks lacks.
Thats where jammers awareness and battlefield managements comes in handy.
Compare to wars that Russian went I’d say NATO has much higher success ratio than Russia.
No its not, the real problem is the high comand are limiting their power.
Even a ukr mig29 pilot said that the number or missiles launched at them is far less then in 2024.
Thats ehy we got some nice bald fella to change side for this exact reason.
Yes true. But i would like for you to try do a 30kmph reverse for about 40km or so.
Not so comfortable and also slow when you can do 50 in normal forward drive
Jammer is not so used because of wiring drone.
Yes. Very much so. It is a case of Leopard 2s and Abroomzes, very good machines, played by waaay below average players, but still managing WRs and K/Ds way above average (some at least, some cannot be salvaged at this point).
There is no fun to be had when playing the BMPT, and there is no fun to be had when playing it either. I have it, when I try in it, and I mean it, games end quickly, are bottomlessly boring, and in general it’s not fun.
I used the BMPT-72 to grind through the whole T-90M line, from the T-72B, all the way to the T-90M, did it in about 150 matches give or take.
It is also an insanely popular vehicle, so much so I still sometimes see lobbies that are 10x BMPT/72, and like 2 other T-series, multiple times a day.
I thought IT COULDN’T get worse when they nerfed the Leopard 2A7V from its “you shot me? don’t care, spall liner” state of surviving 10 hits and getting an orange crew member, nah, BMPT brought those memories back to me.
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It is a textbook deflection…
“BMPT has very good stats, clearly something’s wrong”
“Oh no that’s normal just look at this completely irrelevant other vehicle”
Technically speaking, this is also the Special Pleading fallacy, you made an exception by bringing up how the French perform well, and thus mudding the waters, shifting the goalpost from how broken the BMPT is - which, yeah…
Who would’ve thought you barely play anything else that ISN’T Russia, you come here from a biased position.
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I struggle to share this sentiment as my personal experience playing it was awful and the weaponry just can’t kill a ton of stuff you face. I would much rather have a main cannon.
It’s not bad, but I don’t think it’s op anymore at 11.3.
The BMPT “Terminator” remains significantly overpowered. The primary issue is its turret’s damage model; even after receiving direct hits to the turret, the vehicle often sustains no effective damage. Please address this to maintain game balance. Do not ruin the gameplay experience, Gaijin.
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At least use correct (February) stats, not global ones.
Don’t be posting Japan stats we have no enemies.