BMPT/72 BR Topic

was about a year and a half ago, and NATO said “beh bettah positioning, mavericks cant even be shot from 13km away” xD
whilist carrying 6 of em, you completely missed the point

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When did Russia get the type 93?

for practical purposes , yeah it was, short of pulling a plane, even a tanks APFSDS didn’t have time to hit it before it was back in hiding.

never said they did. I only claimed that it’s funny that people claimed un-countable CAS was fair and balanced when it was their CAS.

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It doesn’t matter; I intercepted Mavericks even with the Osa-AKM at 10.3, or with FlaRakPz 1 garbage.

Yeah pars were cancerous.
But least those had 7km range.

Now, people can just stick on furthest heli base and spam from there

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Yep, it was a bad idea made far worse, but I sooth it with the tears of those that defended the bad idea to begin with suffering with its inevitable conclusion.

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Yeah.
But to be honest, it is hilarious that f&f helo cost less compared to jets with f&f munition.
And also free pantsir should be removed, and replaced with thor.
Would make 11,7+ games a lot more playable

Which was added likely 3 years after Maverick Spam became a basic NATO strategy xD

And I never said that. But it’s complete hypocrisy to deny that the PARS 3, which was released ages ago, remains trash to this day without its real-world functions, while the LMUR arrives fully modeled at launch. Months later, there’s still no word on other missiles getting their actual capabilities—denying that this is partiality is just pure hypocrisy.

And if we’re talking about FnF weapons, why not mention the Kh-38MT, which doesn’t even exist? Meanwhile, Germany had no decent CAS after 7.7 for a very long time, while you guys always had everything and are still here trying to argue about the Tiger UHT. Also, you trying to talk about who has had the advantage longer is ridiculous, especially since the Pantsir has dominated as the undisputed best SPAA for years now. It’s just pathetic.

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I love how the BMPT is at 11.3 and the Challenger 2 OES is at 11.7, BMPT is as good as the Abrams at 12.0 is if not better,

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Their arguments are honestly hilarious lol. Even if you kill a BMPT, it can still insta-kill you with an ATGM. It happened to me in my Leopard 2 PL: I killed the bastard, but he managed to fire the missile right before dying. The detail? All my crew members were still alive, his tank was facing me with no favorable angles, the ATGM hit my turret—and boom, instakill. Nice gameplay.
Besides being a nightmare to kill from the front, that piece of trash shreds your cannon in less than a second and kills you with ATGMs even at a 1.0 higher tier lol. I’ve even played at 12.7 and saw a BMPT on my team absolutely demolishing the enemies, pushing them all the way back to their spawn. But sure, the ‘balance’ is totally fine according to our Russian comrades. Just trust them.

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The biggest thing that irks me is that there’s really nothing I can do to them unless I get a shot on their lower front plate, yet they’re always hull down.

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It really wasn’t trash when it was released. and I have actually supported PARS getting it’s proper top attack mode, it was a necessary nerf when it was introduced that has been power crept past it’s relevance.

Funny how losing a war affects your military isn’t it? Also Japan main here…

Again… Japan main here

I am also long on record advocating for better SPAAs for other nations…

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Just my opinion

Anyway, Germany finally has some CAS with the new Eurofighter AESA. Even though it’s total bullshit having to grind the exact same vehicle all over again just to get FnF bombs and a better radar, it is what it is…

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Remember unlike KH38’s those bombs have Mach 1 release speed which hinders your survivability a lot.

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Yeah, but you can use the terrain to unleash everything in a surprise attack at least. That way, the SPAA probably won’t be able to intercept, and it seems like their kill rate is actually pretty good too

It is but think like it.

If you’re using British or Italian version and suddenly face IRIS-T, the moment it sees you on its radar it can fire IRIS-T SL and basically ignore multipath or terrain most of the time.

Why would you use that Garbage when you have Thailand JAS39C with Mavericks or SU-30MKM with KH-38MT’s?

Thats completely on you.

BMPT shouldn’t be able to just front pen the hull of any MBT this is insane

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IRIS-T is actually strong against planes, but if you carry even a single rocket pod, it becomes useless against your ordnance. The radar gets cluttered as hell, and it’ll be impossible for them to intercept your bombs, trust me on this.