This is the perfect time for gaijin to actually do something productive and fix their implementation of relict is it actually obeys the laws of physics, and also the actually make autocannons realistic. It still needs to die to missile explosions and its auto cannon ammunition cooking off of course.
It baffles me that gaijin will go to great lengths to make some vehicles accurate - “oh no, the chieftain 900 can’t have its composite armour as it was never actually fitted and yet leave autocannons just the same amfrom the bushmaster to the bmpts one.
Russian players when they use 0.0002% of their brain capacity to realize that you can break barrels, tracks and then go sideways or just overpressure 122s or leopards by hitting the rooftop especially now that the armor on it was reduced:
Every fucking light tank with an autocannon bar the bigger calibers like 75/76 or 57mm ones in a frontal engagement against an uncrippled tank prioritize disabling the tanks gun and tracks and then dealing with it. Same thing applies to BMPT except you have 4 (technically 8) very good ATGMs and a very fast firing APDS slinger.
What the hell are you even trying to paint here for a shit picture.
The only time a 122 or leopards win an engagement against a BMPT is if their first shell instakills it or majorly cripples it. Otherwise youre getting touched by APDS and youre dead.
On weaker armored tanks like ariete or leclercs you can pen them and kill them frontally without too much of a hassle, TKX and type 10s are basically light tanks armor wise so it doesnt matter, Abrams you pen by shooting the horizontal and for leopards of any kind assuming you lost or used up your ATGMs you just molest their barrels with APDS, detrack and then side pen. Hell if they are driving at you you can just detrack and they will be swung sideways where you can just hit the basket and the tank is basically dead.
Youd do the literally same thing in BMP2M, APDS or APFSDS
BMPT right now is an extremely survivable and protected APDS and Ataka slinging punisher, BMPT72 is somewhat worse but its still very strong, idk why the hell would you try to die on that hill specifically
They said it cant get composites to keep its BR down, that if it had the composite it would be 10.0 at least.
Which it would be bloody better at now 😂 if tbey actually make a decision on removing L23 and replacing it with thr 23A1, and composites it would br a nice 10.0.
Playing at 11.7 with a VT5 and then going into a BMPT at 11.7 it’s night and day difference, I can disconnect my brain with the BMPT, where as I need to sweat to play the VT5 to perform.
But this is all because autocannons are broken in this game and they find nooks and crannies in armor, the BMPTs are just more menacing because of the magic armor on top.
So it’s really not facing a bad or good BMPT players, it’s just that if they see you first, you are likely dead (if lightly armored) or probably dead (MBT). Similar to gun SPAAGs, only they don’t have armor.
For all I care the BMPTs could be riding the top BRs of the game for years to come, 12.7 now, 13.0 in the future and up to 15.0 if needed, those things are ruining the game and it takes exactly a single brain cell to play, even if you suck with it, you’ll do better than in most vehicles at those BRs.
I was going to buy one but War Thunder is a mess. I am absolutely sick of up tiers to try and force people to buy crap to skip the pain on top of the breaking your ass to get a tank only for it to be absolute trash for the next 100 hours.
I dont agree with it. It still lacks survivability, lacks utility, lacks main armanmemt. After they upgraded the reload it became a better tank, for sure tho
Oh im sure that NATO produces the armanment better than Russia. They just make better tanks. Quite so as the crew mostly survives the penetrations.
But armor wise? Doubt it. Chobham got busted, SLERA got busted, overall the protection of modern MBTs is quite questionable.
Until proven on real battlefield, it sure is
It barely pens the breech of 2a4s reliably, what`s the talk with STRVs?
Same with LFP. I tried several times to shoot the 2a5s back in the day when i grinded 90M, it cant do. Same way i showed up my 2a5 to the 2s38. Tho several times i really did get pento the turret ring, so i believe its the way
very fast firing APDS slinger that cant deal with the breeches, and shooting the barrel is unreliable in this game as for now.
So they mostly do. AND they easilly get away with peeking the BMPT as they operate great mobility and aim angles.
Im ofc you gonna die to the autocannon if you gonna stay in the field open with no movement and letting it shoot you first. wdym who plays like that? Its the way even Wiesel 1a4 is a menace then, omg.
Do I need to remind you that so called RELIKT armor couldn’t even stop the 3BM42 from front?
Those NATO tanks you mentioned took multiple hits from different angles before getting destroyed while T-80BVM took a single hit from 3BM42 to its front hull armor that was equipped with RELIKT and got destroyed.
You’re right Russian armor and ERA is very questionable.
Lmao I guess all those test against bought/captured tanks means nothing.
Guys we got Shell expert in here and claims Western companies are making propaganda.
Lol, lmao even.
Aside from having hard time to accept the truth you got anything else?
Of course they dont. Russia claims their armor clams against same said sht, yet you call that propaganda but pleasely eat same from US GOVT which is known as much for fraud. Need i remind you about mr. Powell?
Okay, let it be yout truth. Truth was, no M1A1 with their “proven truth” depleted uranium shells did destroy a tank upfront, safe to say the “3BM42 pens relikt” is as joke take as it is.
Okay. Answer simple question: Who offers M1s to the NATO alliance: the General Dynamics, or the US GOVT?
I never saw General Dynamics offering M1s to sale.
GD owned by many funds that are affiliated with government. Black Rock has like 6 to 10% hold, Vanguarg Alliance also has same amounts.
For sure arent. And mustnt be. T-90s arent produced in the gulag of lubyanka, and the Challengers arent produced under the king`s residence. If the govt is to decide where and whome to sell the arms, it means it owns those arms production. GD cant make and sell 10000 more M1s to anyone as govt wont let them. Shit, GD cant even make the contracts on their own - the US GOVT makes contracts for them via said FMS. That basically means owning.
