Well, players are allowed to have “double standards”, and we’re allowed to disagree.
However, I’ve never heard “M1 Abrams can’t be 10.3 because of 9.3.”
The primary argument is M1 Abrams is 10.7 because of being the most mobile fast firing thermally equipped MBT for the BR. And that’s why Gaijin hasn’t given it M833 [to my disagreement], despite the round’s increase isn’t major.
Reload rate I can understand.
Mobility in terms of flanking is a rare occurrence due to having drone scouting abilities and in terms of forward movement, russia is on par with other mbt’s. The only one up it has for mobility is its reverse gear.
Thermals seems to be a non issue especially at gen 1. Slight awareness boost at best.
So is armor and era not worth taking into account when considering br? Because a few of those mbt’s at 10.3 have contact 5 that greatly increases their survivability.
Why are we only focusing on the aspects of mobility, reload and thermals. Firepower and armor are also fundamental instruments to a tank which the M1 lacks but Russian mbt’s are in abundance of.
I’d say that both BMPTs should be 11.3 if not 11.7. But now I have given up and decided to contribute to the problem by playing my entire 10.3 line up until they move up the BMPTs.
Flanking is no where near the primary benefit of mobility.
You can flank in a Black Prince.
The primary benefit of mobility is positioning into and out of danger.
Playing against the awareness and reaction times of enemy players.
Survivability is a post-penetration term.
The term you were looking for is protection.
And armor is the 4th? layer of the survival onion.
For now, mobility is king, especially as almost all if not all MBTs in-game are over-performing in mobility.
When you get that Abrams team that remembers they have mobility, they are the most dangerous force to come across.
ridiculous
That’s some alternative thinking.
Normal distribution doesn’t “tank” with more participants
It averages out. Meaning that 50% of the time it increases. Not tanks.
Besides tens thousands people play minor tech trees abd statistically they are as HUGE tech trees and averaged as it gets
I’m being honest.
And you’re not wrong.
If the vehicles were on any other nation, they would be 10.7 at the absolute minimum.
The thing is at the same br as the Ajax which is just utterly absurd.
Does it make gaijin money? Absolutely. Is it a complete joke the way it’s implemented and the br it’s at? Also absolutely.
Read the comment I was responding to Dr. Watson.
Depends on which Russian vehicles:
Russian MBTs? No. The Abrams skill ceiling is just that much higher than that of the T-series. Basically the only thing that limits the M1’s skill ceiling is the players max skill level, while often the T-series limit the full potential of the player’s skill when it comes to good players.
Russian IFVs? I’m not qualified enough to confidently talk about those imo, because most of my experience comes from facing them.
Of course nobody believes how bad US players are (every of nuke speedruns are made on US server).
Imagine lost a fight to a vehicle that can be 1 shotted with 20mm cannon 🤣
BMPT is slow , unarmored(50mm front plate, 20mm turret front) trash with 3kmh reverse speed
That’s some heavy cherry picking you’re doing there. You’re completely ignoring angles, armour composition and era.
It’s not slow, and yeah the reverse speed is terrible but that’s just the standard Russian design flaw.
By IFV standard it is , the mobility is extremely limited. You keep yapping about the armour while ignoring every single down side of the vehicle. If you can’t even talk about it from many perspective why bother at all ?
For a person whom only play one nation that keep talking about other nation like they play multiple is insane.
I haven’t mentioned the armour except in my reply, so you might want to actually check stuff before going off on one.
I play multiple nations, which you should also really check before jumping down my throat.
My issue with the thing is the absurd accuracy gaijin gave the guns which flies in the face of reality. The way it shakes like an alcoholic in the morning is kinda a defining “feature” of the vehicle and should be represented in game.
At least if it is 10.7 it can get sucked into 11.7 black hole
Yeah, 10.7 would be much better. Facing it in an amx-30 105 ain’t much fun.
LMAO wtf.
Lol era so effective that it makes the apfsds get returned to sender
You can’t be serious.
You really be talking about “absurd accuracy gaijin gave the guns which flies in the face of reality”. I will have to remind you that while Gaijin themself advertise the game as super realistic or whatever they wrote on the front page to get the average player to actually bother to play this game.
Before the BMPT there are already stuff that clearly a historical. For a game it need to be that , if you want people to hear you , then you gotta talk from all aspect. Not super yap about one point or two.
A lot of people would agree with you if you actually be able to present all your point. Not one or two point and recycle them like Gaijin did with their premium pack.
