It’s freaking hideous 🤮
I mean yea, as I said - you caught him with pants down.
were it not for that rock, he would absolutely demolish you before the second round got loaded like i demolish bowl of cereal late at night (its like a velociraptor goring a pig).
im not entirely sure if shooting at that exact same angle but lower would change anything, you woud either still hit the ERA + fuel tank combo or the round would be too low to do any substantial damage.
Wasn’t that the thing where on the challenger 2, they think the protection values are from the side of the armour?
Ie, when the panel is mounted on the side of the tank, it would have to be shot from the front or back of the tank to get the actual correct values whereas in reality those protection values should be from a 0 degree angle firing directly into the panel.
They also think the plate the panel is mounted on to is included in the protection values, when that makes zero actual sense as the panels don’t come with those mounting plates, they’re vehicle specific and the protection values come from the manufacturer so how can the mounting plate possibly contribute to the stated values?
I may be mis-remembering but I recall this being a huge nerf with zero logical sense.
This leads to the side armour dramatically underperforming.
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I dont recall the specifics, but yeah. the Challenger 2 is missing a considerable amount of survivability because of this.
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that was with the ERA which was rated to withstand 30mm at certain distance at certain angle where it didnt travel through the entiriety of the ERA block, but gaijin, in their infinitive wisdom, decided that protection value was at 90° angle impact traveling through all the layers.
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That was it, along with the mounting plate shenanigans they pulled.
I’m still salty about the games they played with the challenger 2. The reworked damage model on the dev server was way better but they just memory holed it and gave us the same old crap sadly.
Christ, they can’t even be bothered the correct damage model on what they call rhe challenger 3, still uses the pre-rework challenger 2 model if I recall correctly.
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Meanwhile tseries and their 150 mm trunnion :)
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i lied
Hey, Type 90 isn’t T-series.
@Lambda_Delta
GHPC said they’re never going to implement realistic controls for tanks.
After that, I ignored the game on Steam cause they prefer arcadey clunky controls over being compared to War Thunder.
GHPC never wants to be as realistic as War Thunder, and that’s their self-admitted priority.
Gaijin publishing is not Gaijin Entertainment the developer that only works on one game.
DCS is also getting left behind in air compared to War Thunder. Especially since DCS is an unoptimized mess not made for non-HDDs.
I like that Gaijin is impartial. Despite their self-admitted love of Sweden, they screw up predictably and for all tech trees when something entirely new is added.
After all, T-58 is OP and still hasn’t budged. M10 Booker is 1.0 BRs below its equals, and hasn’t budged.
About 20 - 30 OP vehicles in the game, and people focus on the one Soviet one.
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that what i meant by skiping side ERA, also bais / blind ussr players. ( dont mind all these shoot, just trying something new )
this is just stupid, DM63 just vanished
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top 2 are from ukraine
Yeah I know, but where else are ukraine vehicles gonna go. Was part of the soviet union.
Ngl this one could be more balanced than what we have in game rn. Weaker chassis without trolly side era (not k5 or relict at least).
Also imagine seeing this one in sim and mistaking it for bmp2. And thanks to gaijin crew will always scream “bmp” or “pc”
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The round bounced off the roof armor after penning the ERA + shroud, causing it to partial pen the side.
if you look into the Puma bug reports you can see that basicly 2/3 of the actual frontal armor is missing from the Puma
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Yeah armor and spikes. It’s been half baked ever since release. I look and see how much fun people have with the BMPT. While they shrug off everything thrown at them. At least I can cookoff my belt ammo with them. sigh
same goes for the Boxer too honestly but yea the BMPTs rly rly showed how shafted the Puma is even to those who didnt want to believe it
The only Bradley that would easily end up getting the same treatment as the AGS (Expeditionary tank) is the LOSAT one with a pop-up turret. Unless the army shadow drops a brand new M3E4 or something with JAGM and a high RoF 30mm or 50mm.
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