Its not. They are all underperforming considerably to primary sources
The only long ranged AGMs are the KH-38 and AASM. KH-38 was added first by a consierable margin.
The only nation with top down attack ATGMs modeled is the LMUR, all other missiles are awaiting impelementation of the same code, have been for 3+ years
Pantsir was considerably more powerful than any other equivalent and still is at the same BR. The fair addition for the soviets 4 years ago would have been the Tor-M1, instead they got a 12.7 SPAA at 11.7 for years.
It does, It also blocks all IRCCM missiles too.
Soviets were first, by quite a marign iirc.
Spall liners were onyl added in the same update that hte soviets got an MBT that had spall liners IRL. THey were originally only going to add the T90M with them but everoyne complained
Most nations are still missing spall liners for most IFVs, But BMPT got them fully and completely modeled day 1.
So its been at 10.7 for a week. Shooting them in their weakspots is unreliable and ammo shots have done nothing to blow them up for me. They have absolutely destroyed 10.7 match making. This tank is better protected than a T-90M. I got so tired of their shenanigans that I replaced my CAS plane with a CAP plane for the sole purpose of shooting down any nuke a BMPT player gets.
I find it hilarious that they get TK’d by their own helicopters from time to time. Gaijin needs to put it up to 11.3, hell even 11.3 is too low. I had one tank my Challenger 2’s L26 shot (my Challenger 2’s are stock) in the LOWER HULL PLATE. Take it too 11.7 where it can get into 12.3 match making so it can be humbled by real MBTs that actually worked in real life.
PGM 2000, PGM 500, Kh-59, AGM-130A, Hammer, Kh-38 off the top of my head.
And all glide bombs in the game as they have ranges up to 120km.
3- Bugs do not change the fact that top attack ATGMs exist in many tech trees.
4- Pantsir was unable to frag top CAS due to not being CLAWS or better in capability.
Pantsir itself was 6 - 12 months late, and the new SPAA was over 2 years late. All because CAS players just didn’t care about survival.
6- And Soviet DIRCM didn’t prevent Stinger or other IRCCM locks until it was added to other tech trees.
7- Thanks for proving my point.
Also not sure why you’re calling Leopard 2s “T-90M”.
Spall liners take more than 2 days to 3D model on over 10 tanks. Weeks to months of lead time.
Survivability is also the issue at hand, I think it should be expelled to 12.3-12.7, maybe given APFSDS to compensate and nerf the turret to the point that, the ammunition belt on the turret can actually kill the crew and make the turret mechanism elements far bigger so that any turret hit can prevent it from firing back. That is the treatment the PUMA received if I recall correctly.
Massively artificially nerfed. Should be able to reach 20km when dropped at 500 ft (2 year old report for that ) can barely hit 8km under those current conditions. So slow that they are ALWAYS intercepted. I consider them a total waste of SP, you are better off gun strafing.
Limited number, quite slow, but I suppose does count.
KH-59, KH-38 and AASM ive already said.
glide bombs… kinda not the same as long ranged AGMs, given they need both speed and height to do that .
It does when its not modeled. Not even close.
its like saying the Harrier GR7 should be balanced around having its EW suite that isnt even modeled in game. Its a stupid argument.
Pantsir should have never been added when it was, or equals should ahve been added within 3 months not 3 years,
To be honest, half of those are slow enough to be countered. I don’t actually know all of them but glide bombs sure are not the longest ranged unless we only count what the stats say. In performance the KHs still win due to their massive warhead or whatever making it hard to dodge it competely. And due to their speed SPAAs have a harder time with them. Anyways, if we’re looking at the stats alone yeah I guess those are long ranged.
At close range it’s only really effective against R-60s and similarly week seeker missiles, close range is advised for IR missiles against non-afterburning targets.
But this topic is about BMPT needing to be a higher BR.