still completely ridiculous how the abrams are not allowed to have good armor despite being a well documented vehicle yet the bmpt gets magic armor that eats all sorts of shells
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Abrams is STILL better than a BMPT in 95% of scenarios
95% of real combat scenarios (if not more) but not in a warthunder game with the map design and objectives. Any frontal shot will take out your turret basket rendering you completely useless. And later abrams are slower despite having the same armor (with sep v3 as an exception). Even if a vehicle irl is slightly heavier (due to electronic upgrades) it should not be implemented in game if it is not modeled in game. Youre also slow because lack of neutral steering. And since only the lfp can be reliably oenned frontally on a bmpt but not abrams and its missiles can overpressure most tanks but is itself very hard to overpressure
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If a vehicle IRL is heavier that weight ofc is added to it in-game. It should be.
You mean abrams?
LFP, drivers port, HE to turret
Taking into account that the BMPT also takes longer to damage you vs you damage him with a 120mm apfsds/he the MBT always has the advantage
Why should a later abrams be slower when its not due to any changes to features that make a difference in the game such as new armor, or new engine. A random computer that provides no in game effect should not matter. I mispoke btw I meant regenerative steering. Drivers port unlike on the russian mbts is not reliable due to the bmpts weird damage model, same for he to turret also most abrams dont even have proper he
Because said abrams is still heavier.
ok well why is it the same br then if it has the exact same armor package, the survivability is the same and the rounds are the same, WT has already shown it can be creative with the bmpt with its damage model and the fact that the ammo belt doesnt cause a catastrophic detonation. Also bmpt doesnt have a turret basket and 4 missiles which can easily overpressure an abrams
Have you ever tried he’ing a bmot turret, also how the hell do you do that with the abrams that has no he
*BMPT’s
And yes, I have
HEAT also has the same effect due to the fact it has overpressure
SEP V3 also has a HE-VT shell 🤓
I am going to say, after playign the UK into 10.7… playing abrams feels waaaaay better.
Idk if you’ve ran the tech tree in any other nations might try it. Abrams is a lot snappier and at least takes shots better than the chally/arjun/vickers.
That said, folks don’t seem to know where to shoot the vickers despite it being stupid weak to auto cannons and a massive gap in it’s breach.
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Where do you HE the BMPT? I recall trying it with miserable results.
I usually go on top of the turret (where the breeches are), but generally close to the breeches is best in my experience
While the BMPT usually wouldn’t die to this, this is where I often shoot with the EMBT (got two kills this way including the clip somehow lol)
Most BMPT players are too dumb to swap to the second cannon if it survives anyways lmao.
If your he is big enough you can probably also just hit the barrels and disable them that way too
7.62 can also make them red apparently
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He was boutta hold W+M1 on you and got whacked lol, deserved for being braindead
Interesting, is that the other bmpt then that’s immune to the HE? Least it seems to disable all the guns.
BMPT-72 is the one that you can HE much more easily
I don’t expect the BMPT to die to HE like in my clip consistently
So far it’s happened twice with the EMBT for me
^This is the BMPT-72
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So what’s the consensus, is BMP-T still a 12.7 worthy vehicle ?
no
To be honest, it’s still dangerous on terrains that could hide it’s hull, usually short to mid range and wish your dart didn’t just pass through one of the belt for some reason it didn’t trigger the cook off. But for long range? it’s a kitten that don’t bite, unless we walks right into the second atgms lol
Fine where it is not accounting for decompression BR increases