BMPT/72 BR Topic (Part 2)

SAMP/T as effective as SM-SV

nice one

Less ammo, for buildings sized trucks x3 (almost impossible to hide on maps this small, who would have thought)

Can’t target stationary helis (rotor blade doppler not modelled)

Subject to multipath

Less energy than SM-SV at 20km on a 100km class missile

No guns

That thing underperforms so hard in game, mostly because of problems related to all fox-3 missiles, but also because Gaijin decided it would be a good idea to give it the drag of a washing machine with parachute attached to it, not to mention a lack of lofting, even compared to shorter range (IRL) peers like CAMM-ER

Here : base pantsir (S1) vs Aster-30 at Pantsir’s max range
SM-SV not available in the missile thing from Gaijin… for some reason

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Same terminal velocity of about 510 m/s

And here compared to CAMM-ER at 40km

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2/3rd of CAMM terminal velocity, more flight time.

Aster-30 is dangerous under 20km, an area where most SPAAs are dangerous, and Pantsir SM-SV even more so.

The only AA with long range performance is Buk and somewhat type03 (although far less)

IRL Aster-30 would be too, being a bit halfway between a patriot and medium range SAMs like IRIS-T (Which Type 03 or Buk are)
With Gaijin modelling ? It’s a radar guided IRIS-T, but with an insanely long battery time
It will limp to 90km in game, but not anywhere as fast or as high as it should

Buk compared to SAMP/T has :

  • can’t be killed in one shot
  • higher explosive
  • fast during most of its flight time
    Pays for it with :
  • Slower scan (matters little because of instant refresh PESA on launchers)
  • VLS that have to rotate

Yet somehow some russian mains still considered it underwhelming, so what conclusion are we suppose to draw here

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No proxy (can hit through trees)
Smoke shells
IRST so no warning
Better mobility
Hydropneumatic suspension
Significantly more missiles

You have to be batshit insane to consider any other AA remotely as powerful as the SM-SV.
The pantsir S1 at 12.0 was already one of the strongest SPAAs even after the addition of IRIS-T SLM and friends.
SM-SV is that but with almost everything improved

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And even with irst off, majority of planes cant recognize s1 and sm tracking band with rwr. Biggest use of irst is to get rid of tws switching to random targets and even allies.

My main use is for when a player tries the James strat as the radar feels iffy locking people who do it.

This too. Feels like youtubers told everyone* about this strat just to let spaa earn plenty of easy kills.

No, people are just dumb.
They overestimate how good it is.

James strat has a time and place.
It’s not a “one shoe fits all” strat

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First I thought dude who made this thread was a troll, then I realized he was serious about it

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You can rarely assume it’s a troll when it comes to dumb takes.
This, is an example of that.

imo, they should add apfsds to BMPT.
BUT
make the guns jam because the belts don’t fit inside the feeding system

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You’re asking for exactly what I was calling for back when it arrived on the December 2025 dev server I wanted it at 11.3 or 11.7 with APFSDS to use alongside the T-90M and T-80BVM, but Gaijin put it at 10.3 instead (farming nukes with it was amazing).

K/D per spawn:
BMPT - 1.10
Ariete (11.7) - 1.09
M1A1 HC (it is only fair to compare TT vehciles) - 1.04
Clickbait (but lets see premium anyway :) ) - 1.16

Win rate:
BMPT - 53.6%
Ariete(11.7) - 50.6%
M1A1 HC - 48.3%
Clickbai - 50.1%

I may miss something but…where is statistically significant difference? If anything BMPT has noticibly higher winrate.
BMPT does NOT need an APFSDS belt.
Posts like this are one of the reasons devs don’t read forums often.

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Am I crazy or is the BMPT suddenly started eating side shots for absolutely zero damage?

I 'm sure these exact same hits would have destroyed it before the patch. Can this be because of the side-ERA buff, but if so, it feels seriously broken right now.

Before anyone hits me with “skill issue” I know how to fight BMPTs xd.
T-90s and T-80s are popping as usual.

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Didn’t feel any difference, it always managed to sometimes eat side shots, and if angled it was always guaranteed to eat a shot, just aim below ERA whenever possible.

krill issue

Tank Support Combat Vehicle(BMPT Terminator - Wikipedia) isn’t outperforming NATO MBTs from higher BRs :o
hq720

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Idk, seems like its same. And even if snail pulls up “yes, a hit”. I pull up mitl agm62 on hornet which just obliterates them. And then obliterate their aa and remains of ego with harms.

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git gud

Bro sees 0.07 KD difference and be like - “literally unplayable”

Screenshot From 2026-07-02 16-28-23

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Stronger ATGMs ?!? Literally the only stronger Russian ATGM is the Kornet,which can’t even be fitted into the ATGM holder
BMPT was designed to use the 130 mm Ataka,not the 152mm Kornet
Now please do yourself a favor and stop writing in this topic :D

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How about something constructive.

With the “nerf” to the 2a42, or russian 30mm cannons if you must. 2 things should’ve happened.

  1. The Low Rate of Fire mode on the 2a42 cannon should have had it’s own adjustment so the deviation is not equivalent to the high rate of fire, as it completely defeats the purpose of having the low fire rate mode.

  2. All other nations vehicles wielding autocannons (not just Russia) should of got similar adjustments as weapon acccuracy was a nothing burger until the BMPT was added (nobody cared)

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