Not really, you tried to use mbt logic on BMPT first, after i exposed your flawed logic you tried to switch back to anti tank logic yet you failed once again.
Except my first reply was directly mentioning about changes on new uptade which seems you ignored completelty, my my.
I don’t quite get what you are trying to say. You are the one who brought up “its a support vehicle why do you expect it to kill tanks”.
I expect it to kill tanks if it is not meant to fight air vehicles. Especially if it has armor piercing autocannons and ATGMs.
Its not a light tank, its more close to an T-90 than it is a PUMA.
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what is the point of this entire conversation, the tanks intended use means nothing in this game where playing things as their “intended” is pure larp activities, and gaijin redesignates tanks at will.
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Discourse ebbs and flows relevant to the information presented by either party, something I would have hoped you were familiar with given your aptitude for shifting goal posts. The changes in a number of updates have introduced balancing actions in some senses, but further make evident the substandard offensive capacity. Which is where the discourse flowed to, which is y’know, the nature of it.
Parties you were engaging with even highlighted that there are changes that could further balance the platform, even against bringing the offensive capability to the point you would expect of an autocannon platform of the rating.
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Guys why cant we just hug each others and make peace and love instead of fighting in WT?
That might fixs the issue.
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Another flaw approach, i said its dedicated heavily armored supporting vehicle which is why your logic that contains the idea of destroying anything on its sight just in second is flawed.
Hmm yes because every armor piercing round and atgm has the same capabilities that can destroy anything on its side in couple of seconds right? Guess large calibers or echanced penetration capabilities means nothing by this logic.
In terms of protection yes, in terms of dedicated firepower its not which is the whole point that seperates them, i wonder how hard it is for you to understand this single yet most important part?
Funny because i highlighted those changes multiple times on my previous posts and even mention that they most likely affected its performance and survivability which is a good way to make it more balance yet you completely ignored that part while focusing on cherrypicked part.
So did i so whats your point in this case?
Try not to project your own opinions to me buddy.
So we are going in circles. You do not understand what I’m saying.
When did I say it should kill things as fast as main cannons? I simply pointed out that it doesn’t, not that it should.
The protection has always been the main selling point of BMPT. While it is good in that regard it is flawed in every other one. That is what I am saying.
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We can all celebrate together around the rusty burning hull of this vehicle when it finally gets deleted (I’ll bring the marshmallows)
Oh wow part 2 can we get another 10k posts of negative feedback ignored - goooo isolation thread!
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You are both functionally illiterate, and by extension effectively unable to navigate this discourse soundly. This is giving you the benefit of the doubt, as the only other way to have ended up in this backwards interpretation is malice towards your interlocutors.
Rather you’re just covering your ears while kept saying same thing.
Hmm ı dont know, maybe when you tried to compare to dedicated mbts or tried to use it like some sort of immortal vehicle in exposed environment while trying to focus on multiple sides rather than locking into one way?
Not just protection but broken damage model and accuracy on those 30mm guns alongside with high ROF were the main selling point which two of them already balanced.
So much fancy words just to keep ignoring my highlights, funny.
Ironic, honestly.
I am pointing out its flaws. MBT pulls off that scenario no problem. Autocannon vehicles don’t. They are flawed. Or is that hard to understand?
Damage model falls into protection. I direct you to BMP-2M on the autocannon. The SOLE reason BMPT was EVER good, was the protection/surv.
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Negative feedback ignored = vehicle got up to 11.7 with performance nerfs coming it’s way as well
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they did like the bare minimum
10.3 → 11.7
2.5x worse accuracy
Multiple new disabling modules
Missiles destroying the tank
Looks like buffs to me.
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Proxy nerf via Abrams DM + Armor changes
the existence of SEPv2 Trophy
erm…
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Quite literally the case with BMPTs.
BMPT without armor is just a worse BMP-2M.
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Me personally I would not include that. But it definitely affects BMPTs performance.
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