BMPT/72 BR Topic (Part 1)

You are speaking of top tier. I was more thinking of lower tier. 11.0-12.0 MSC, challenger and other. Those tanks usually don’t have armor or good shells. Mobility on the Leclerc (and MSC) is pretty good but I don’t think it matters that much if you have to face a BMPT frontally.
While it is possible to stand your ground against a rushing BMPT, it’s often just Russian roulette (pun intended). I usually prefer not bothering with them and retreating to somewhere else.
Well, tbf, I just stopped playing the game mostly because of that, so no need to face these things

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Probably the best course of action. Gaijin won’t balance that thing as it is their new cash cow after the 2S38.

Avoid anything above 10.3 if you want to play a reasonably balanced game. Or join the russian side.

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This is good advice.

The game ends at 10.3 for me at the moment.

Been trying to spade the sky sabre recently and it’s just a shit show.

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I’m playing a lot of other games, including nuclear option. It’s the game gaijin shamelessly copied basically 1:1 but worse for Nuclear Thunder. The game is much better overall and isn’t lock behind a year long grind to reach the best vehicles. If you enjoyed Nuclear Thunder, this game is great ;)

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Windrose for me 10.3 and lower when I get an urge to blow a vehicle up

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CR1 at least has L26 but you’re absolutely right it’s completley different when you’re not armed with a really good shell.

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Oh I thought that was a big reported years ago and gaijin acknowledged it way back?

Just as they acknowledged the bmpt ammo belt.
Buffing NATO and nerfing Russia is gaijin’s kryptonite.

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Apparently they renamed it to Spiridon
https://x.com/MrFrantarelli/status/2061718557075902795?s=20

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Yes, we are

They can rename it to the Flower-Arranger-5000 or ‘Dave’ for all the good it’ll do.

Had to stifle a giggle at the Babushka applying automotive vinyl lettering to the side… that tells you it’s probably a parade queen (another one to keep the other Wunderwaffe company on their annual drive-past?).

Meanwhile - IN-GAME - it remains stupidly robust to most things bar (ironically) KH-38s. You don’t even have to get kills in it - you can just park it somewhere suitably awkward (overwatch a cap for example) and just track/barrel/ATGM people in the face. Occasionally you might even lose a crew member amidst the darts and helo ATGMs hurled at you.

I’ve using mine totally recklessly trying to get into people’s faces - it is obscene how much fire and how many enemies often have to gang up just to stop you. Then you jump in the backup and do it all over again…

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Tbh there are a lot of problems with bmpt

No ammo explosion
Extreme survability
If u destroy one gun it has another and also dont forget it does also have atgm’s
There is no ammo in game able to eassily pen the t90 hull (irl NATO does have better ammo than russia, but russia does have larger caliber)
Unfair br, it is supposed to fight the top top tier
Volumetric fails doesnt help
Even if u shoot the lfp that wont kill the bmpt
Russian 30mm precision irl is mediocre
Real tank fights are at long distances but in war thunder mostly all the maps are short so that means another advantage for the bmpt
Idk, i feel that bmpt could have been added, but in some years, the game was not prepared for it, also it makes sense how bmpt and bmpt72 are at the same br while the bmpt72 is worse

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Why the glazing? It’s not mediocre. It’s hitrate is “one round per log while” at best

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I mean,I misspoke; it does its job in real life since it’s a weapon designed to take down infantry. It has absolutely no accuracy, which is precisely what makes it good, but in War Thunder, its accuracy is fake, Also, the accuracy of weapons like the AH-64 or the Bradley is false, since it has been seen in real life that the accuracy is simply incredible even in long bursts, but in War Thunder the shots they are very scattered for some reason. My solution for bmpt would be to leave bmpt72 where it is, make the bmpt t90 full top tier and maybe give it the twin fire but just if they add the real poor accuracy of the russian 30mm, dont add apfsds and the new atgm’s until there is ammo capable to pen the t90 eassily like irl and add more larger maps for top tier so the mbt’s have better chances to fight back just like irl

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Sorry - to pull you up on a sentence of yours.

“It has absolutely no accuracy, which is precisely what makes it good”

I’m not sure I’d want to be in an Army using heavy weapons with no accuracy… What happens if, you know - you’re shooting at someone who happens to be in the same Post Code as friendly infantry?

That’s like saying ‘My Guard Dog is brilliant - he bites EVERYBODY, even me!’

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When you have to shoot both of its cannons, and both ATGM, while its hull down: “I should’ve aimed better!”

or when you shoot where the commander and gunner are but the ERA on the side of the hull sends your dart to the shadow realm: “I should’ve aimed better!”

Just in auto mode the russian 30mm does not have accuracy, when there is a lot of light vehicles or a lot of infantry the disperssion of the gun is incredibly good for suppressive fire. So yeh,it is good but if u want accuracy then u have the NATO 30mm guns wich have a slower fire rate but with better accuracy

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Well, the only thing that i saw is that heat fs does work “fine” against bmpt but just if u dont shoot to the ERA wich is a lil bit difficult, it is even more difficult if the bmpt is moving

Games at top tier just depends on which team gets the BMPT, BMPT can just roll into enemy spawns holding mouse1 and not die im getting sick of it