Apologies if this has been brought up before but…
Where is the MK8 HE round for this cannon? And has anyone tried to get it added?
It seems a weird omission, and while yes it has SAP, having an HE with double the bang will also have it’s own uses.
There have been suggestions of adding the WW1 HE shell with 100kg bursting charge, although they were not actually used by the ship iirc.
In fact, since 1920s the British developed fuzes with function to switch in between delay and non-delay mode. So practically the CPC shell can be switched to non-delay mode and thus perform like a HE shell against light targets. The real “HE” shell weren’t supplied to most of ship unless one was carrying out shore bombardment operations.
Would it be practical to then suggest one shell with the Delay-fuse and one without?
Or they could carry over from what the T-34’s have with rounds never used in service, but theoretically being capable of being fired from that gun?
I’ve already written an internal suggestion about it
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Thanks for getting back to me on this.
And for the information too boot.
Once I played naval for a bit, I thought about maximizing the number of kills with a large caliber naval guns (12" and above) and I immediately thought to use the British 15" HE rounds…
But, as u mention, there are none
My thinking was that, the way WT works, a shell with 100kg of TNT impacting on the deck near or freeboard under the turret of any ship should make the magazine pop with or without penetration
Bc when u have plane dropped bombs, that’s exactly what happens after u reach bombs with more than 100kg of TNT equivalent regardless of actual penetration
With enough TNT and good aim, u can ignore armor
I reasoned that a massive British HE shell should, unlike the Japanese ones, be able to exploit this mechanic in warthunder given how much filler they had
Other large caliber HE shells still wreck cruisers and below but they’re far from guaranteeing a instant ammo detonation on them and it’s impossible to do that against a BC or BB
The 88kg TNT from Marlborough doesnt do that,tho there were times when if you hit Prinz Eugen with it it blew up the mags but that doesnt matter anymore either.
With Barham being recently added is the HE round being considered again or was it already denied?
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Yeah that HE round would be very much appreciated.
That or zero fuse SAP one of them is needed, Barham has exceptional difficulty dealing with some ships particularly Scharnhorst due to not having quite enough penetration but also no HE round to properly cause significant damage.
AFAIK Monitors could carry it with the exact same gun and loaders so it shouldn’t be an issue, the Renown’s also received dedicated HE shells.
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88kg of HE equivalent on any non armor piercing munition shouldn’t be a guaranteed ammo detonation on a heavy cruiser (though 88kg is still a lot!)
But 100kg of well aimed HE… That’s where it could be a bit too broken
Bc if I have a fighter with a 500kg bomb with 130kg ish of TNT equivalent, I know a heavy cruiser is done for
So I can see why they’d hesitate to add the larger HE shells for the British
On that note I had wanted to buy iron Duke on sale but it seems they removed it at some point 😤
You couldn’t use them vs Prinz Eugens anyway as the lowest you find 15" guns is 7.0 and the 6.0 cruisers all have antifragmentation armour which pretty much negates HE of all calibres seemingly randomly.
Only Glorious would actually be able to do that and to be honest, she kinda needs the buff. I don’t really understand why she’s a higher br than an Admiral Hipper or Graf Spee.
Because unlike Hipper or Spee, she is mostly empty so hard to kill on crew, most of her hull is just hollow for some reason.
Her disadvantage is that she cant hit anything and she has a vastly lower RoF which to me would make it balanced as also Glorious does not have obscene armour.
But it is what it is.
Arcade Naval (ew) here, but they’re the same there. Not sure how or why.
Ppl bring cruisers into top tier all the time and probably as much the capital ships
Not only might they be the only thing they have researched but often its a good idea or even necessary to use a cruiser during a game
I suppose that’s true, but ‘theoretically’ you shouldn’t see them in the matchmaker. Of course I want the improved shells for the British regardless.